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Requested move

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was move to Ein bißchen Frieden ("b" should be lowercase) with no prejudice against a future proposal/request to move it to a English version. JPG-GR (talk) 00:49, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ein Bißchen FriedenEin bißchen Frieden — Correct spelling —Abe Lincoln (talk) 07:13, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Whhhhhhat???? --Abe Lincoln (talk) 12:46, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"ß" is not English. Use the double-s substitution used commonly in English and Swiss German. Or, use the English translation of the name. If you insist on keeping ß, then English-only people convert than into a capital-B because they don't know better, so you should use that instead. 70.55.84.237 (talk) 05:38, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Standard English convention for the proper name would be for the capital B, which leans me towards an oppose but this isn't an English title (I am assuming because it isn't known in English or only by its german name?). I'm still leaning towards oppose on this one though. Narson (talk) 14:26, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Just take a look at the Chicago Manual of Style. Regarding titles it says: "In any language but English capitalize only the words that would be capitalized in normal prose." (13th edition, chapter 9.4) The CMOS also uses the character ß in its examples. -- kh80 (talk) 22:51, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Re-reading the article I am sticking with an oppose but for the reason that the article gives the impression A Little Peace would infact be the common name in English. Narson (talk) 00:00, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wait a minute... I opposed the capital B, it doesn't make sense at all, bißchen can never be written with a capital B! You oppose other things, so why don't you please make counterproposals?

Regarding the ß: Please look at Die Straße, it should be like there! Though the word is now (after the Grammar reform) written bisschen, it was written bißchen then (in 1982). So if you choose a German lemma (and not A little Peace), you should use bißchen as in Die Straße. --Abe Lincoln (talk) 07:54, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Pointless arguing without evidence of how this song is called English language texts. Best to go and have a look first, and then discuss based on something concrete. I have always seen this song referred to in untranslated form (i.e. never as A Little Peace) and certainly never with strange "transliterations" (i.e. never with *BiBchen). Which if the remaining forms predominates however I cannot say. Knepflerle (talk) 18:21, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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Keeping it clear that "Ein bißchen Frieden" and "A Little Peace" are two separate songs

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It should be kept clear that these are not the same songs. For one thing, their chart positions are combined. For example, "Ein bißchen Frieden" did not reach number one in the UK, but "A Little Peace" did. And the lead section states, ""Ein bißchen Frieden" ([aɪ̯n ˈbɪsçən ˈfriːd(ə)n], "A Little Peace") is a song in German,...". That is not an accurate statement. I'll try to fix it up a bit. GravityIsForSuckers (talk) 17:53, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]