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Proposed move

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Move complete.

Rationale

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EgyptAir is now using the CamelCase naming as opposed to the earlier Egyptair. The change can be seen on their website. EdwinHJ | Talk

Horribly Inaccurate Facts

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The Maltese Egypt air incident is horribly inaccurate, the hi-jackers did not storm the plane but shot anyone who tried to escape the plane and used a powerful explosive on the plane thus killing the passengers instead of aprehanding the terrorists, they killed more passangers that the terrorists. Please correct the inaccurate fact, I live in the country myself don’t tell me you have a good source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.85.104.106 (talk) 21:48, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Discussion/Comments

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Why no mention of EgyptAir's famous incident?

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I am referring to the air crash a few years ago. —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 21:44, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

hey which crash? the one of tunisia?


Airline Fleetsize

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EgyptAir is not second largest anymore. Both Egyptair and South African Airways have the fleetsize as of current (49 planes both). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.100.218.127 (talk) 04:50, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WARNING! Violation of WP:OR

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This article is in violation of WP:OR. This article may have some of its information deleted without further notice. WP:OR is a wikipedian policy which works in conjuctions with WP:V. All Encyclopedic content must be verifiable (as stated just above every edit summary). The table within this article makes reference IATA code of EgyptAir being "MS". However it does not provide sufficience reference to investigate this finding. There is a link to IATA however, further investigation into this self referencing wikipedia link does not provide any information or a corelation with the term MS. As per wikipedian policy, aggreed upon by general concensus, this information must be removed. I have previously given this article a warning by adding {{fact}}, however this was removed. Consider this your final warning to provide reliable sources. --CyclePat 21:04, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have just been threathen with a block from user User talk:Dethme0w in regards to EgyptAir and feel I can no longer debate this issue. He has consider the fact that I added "Citation required" as disruptive. I have posted my concerns at the WP:ANI board and the WP:Reliable sources Noticeboard and this is my final post regarding this item. We have not found any reliable sources, we could not work together, and we disagreed upon the fundamental wikipedia rules elaborated within WP:OR and WP:V which states "Encyclopedic content must be verifiable." We are still left wondering where this information comes from and I believe the article is not properly sourced. Unfortunatelly, I feel as though I can no longer safely debate this issue from feer of being blocked. Finally, I would like to express my final concerns and warning to future readers in regards to the information within this article. Beware and be diligent to make sure your references are included! --CyclePat 22:22, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Uh, instead of boldly waltzing in, declaring your intentions, how about helping out and sourcing? :) spryde | talk 00:14, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have done my part :) spryde | talk 01:04, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

History section removed in its entireity

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The history section as in this edit, [1], has been completely removed as it is blatant WP:COPYVIO of http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/EgyptAir-Company-History.html --Russavia Dialogue 22:01, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Destinations

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Link to Egyptair Destinations does not work

213.121.200.9 (talk) 14:09, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Added Montreal to list of destinations as it has been resumed in 2009 after being suspended for budget problems. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/article396669.ece —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.196.167.91 (talk) 08:45, 11 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It has not resumed in 2009. The first three words of the cited article are: "Starting June 10"! Jasepl (talk) 10:11, 11 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Accidents

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An editor recently removed two accidents from the "Incidents and accidents" section of the article. One is a Misrair accident and the other is an Egypt Air accident. Both are mentioned in the List of accidents and incidents involving the Vickers Viscount. I've readded them to the article. The Misrair accident should be included until such time as Misrair is converted from a redirect into a stand-alone article. Mjroots (talk) 12:19, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mobile site

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http://91.204.216.75/ is the direct IP address for the mobile site WhisperToMe (talk) 04:51, 6 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Egyptair incident in Geneva reports

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WhisperToMe (talk) 04:25, 18 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

==Egyptair cockpit fire reports

WhisperToMe (talk) 22:04, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Archived references not used in the article

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2010s

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--Jetstreamer Talk 15:28, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2000s

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--Jetstreamer Talk 15:32, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

1990s

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--Jetstreamer Talk 01:31, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

MS 990

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--Jetstreamer Talk 19:06, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Key people

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@Captain fawzy: Here's the diff where I added a reference for the new CEO. Add a better source if you have one. Please stop modifying the article with unsourced claims.--Jetstreamer Talk 10:23, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 11 February 2015

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key_people =

  • Captain Sameh El Hefny (Chairman & CEO of EgyptAir Holding Company)
  • Captain Hisham El Nahas (Chairman of EgyptAir Airlines)

Egyptair Ecommerce Department.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Egyptair Ecommerce (talk • contribs)

I don't see you providing a source supporting the changes. That's precisely the reason the article has been semi-protected.--Jetstreamer Talk 10:23, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Unsupported changes

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@Anup: This [2] edit is at least partly unsupported by the references provided. More specifically, <ref name="EgyptAir plans further restructuring as losses mount. But outlook may brighten as Egypt stabilises" /> only supports the CEO position for El Hefny. I had previously requested protection of the page because of additions of unsupported changes. The source for El Nahas seems to be fine. According to WP:BURDEN, I will require that you add the proper source to the changes you made for the positions held by El Hefny.--Jetstreamer Talk 17:20, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Contradictory and confusing text

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The text says that the airline renamed itself "United Arab Airlines" in both February 1957 and March 1958. Which is true? Also, it mentions the airline losing a Viscount at Almaza airport during an air raid, but does not make clear when the air raid occurred. Was it during the 1956 Suez Crisis – and, if so, why isn't it mentioned in that context? – or at another time? Mdnavman (talk) 18:22, 28 November 2015 (UTC)mdnavman[reply]

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Planespotters is not a reliable source

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An editor that uses several IPs keeps using planespotters [3] [4] as a source, which is not considered reliable. Even if it was, the IP is not including the reference in the article but just in their edit summary. If you are the one that is making such changes please stop with this.--Jetstreamer Talk 10:18, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Egyptair vs. EgyptAir (article uses them inconsistently)

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Egyptair's web site uses all caps, which, of course, is a house style choice that we will not follow. But its logo clearly eschews camel case. While the company itself is not always the best source for determining how a name is written, it should be given consideration. The article has a mixture of Egyptair and EgyptAir. It is properly, in my opinion, titled Egyptair. The rest of the article needs to be cleaned up for consistency. I don't have the time to do it now, and I would like this to be open for discussion for a while first. Thanks! Holy (talk) 02:06, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Before the latest logo the airline used "EgyptAir" as a logo hence the confusion. MilborneOne (talk) 07:46, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like there's a space in that logo (Egypt Air), which adds even more confusion! Holy (talk) 05:26, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It may or may not be relevant, but a reminder that many senior personnel at Egyptair would have been brought up with English as a second language. Is it the case that arabic script places a different emphasis on capitalization, or doesn't recognize it at all? So when the graphic designers asked what do you think of the new logo, maybe some of them shrugged and said 'I dunno, it's all Greek to me!'
WendlingCrusader (talk) 12:29, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Accidents & incidents

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Just a reminder (because sometimes it seems to be forgotten); this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Egyptair article.

I can see that this article is in terrible disarray, and I can also see that there is considerable history here involving editors with curious agendas, although I am also supposed to "assume good faith". I propose to consolidate most of the accidents described randomly in the main sections, into the one section where they belong - Accidents & Incidents. I can already see that in many cases it is simply a case of plain duplication, and I can see no particular reason for that. Where it may get tricky is the handful of cases where the main body contains an incident not already mentioned in the Accidents sub-section, and where that incident is poorly sourced. If I can improve the source, I will. But if not, I still believe it is better to re-position the text to a place where it belongs. However I can already predict some kick-back from other editors arguing that I am "introducing" unsourced material. I would ask them to take a step back from the letter of the law as far as Wikipedia stands, and ask the simple question "does this edit improve the article"? Or is it preferable to leave the article in its current haphazard state, equally unsourced?

On a related note; there are (at least) two fatal accidents involving leased aircraft. These jumped out at me because I noted the registrations (YR-IMK and YU-AHR), but in neither case is the full status made clear in the article. Egyptair has never operated the DC-9, so it is safe to assume that in that case neither the aircraft nor the flight crew were from Egyptair. Whilst the flight number makes it Egyptair's ultimate responsibility, failing to mention the lease arrangement means that the average reader is disadvantaged in terms of appreciating the bigger picture. I intend to put that right, but am I going to be accused of introducing 'new' information here, when my goal is to explain to the average reader what to me is screamingly obvious? I would argue that the information is not 'new', it's just not clearly stated, and it should be.

WendlingCrusader (talk) 10:42, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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