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No date of birth? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.150.157.38 (talk) 05:15, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Date of birth dispute

I have full protected the article for 3 days over a content dispute regarding whether californiabirthindex.org is a suitable source for the birth date on a BLP. I would suggest it is not, as WP:BLPPRIMARY states "Do not use trial transcripts and other court records, or other public documents, to support assertions about a living person. Do not use public records that include personal details, such as date of birth, home value, traffic citations, vehicle registrations, and home or business addresses." I would like to take the citation out purely because we should err on the side of caution for BLPs and leave contentious information out. I will be happy for it to be left in though if consensus can show it is acceptable.

In terms of the participants in the dispute, it appears I agree with the IP. I would therefore not recommend any sanctions as adhering to BLP is one of the exemptions for WP:3RR. I would, however, caution Dwpaul and Amaury and remind them that they were edit-warring on the article just as much as the IP was. I appreciate this looks like I am picking sides on the debate for which I apologise in advance. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 08:59, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I endorse Ritchie333's advice. Restoring this poorly sourced info will be construed as breaking BLP. Edit-warring to restore BLP-challenged material is instant block material. Please don't do it. --John (talk) 18:02, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Understood and agreed. What attracted my attention initially was the IP's citation (in their first edit summary) of this document at an anonymous dropbox folder, which would clearly have been a WP:BLPvio had it been used to add content. It took me a while to catch on (after actually reviewing their edits) that the IP wasn't actually adding anything based on that source (my initial assumption), but was merely removing the (apparently) bad and in any case badly-sourced data. By the time I did catch on (meanwhile busily looking for a better, or any other, source for the existing content), I was at 3RR (and stopped). Unfortunately, I suspect Amaury may have been influenced by my reverts and continued the reversions under the good faith assumption that I had known what I was doing (sorry!). I think my edit summaries, misguided as they were, will support this explanation of the chain of events. Dwpaul ^Talk 21:44, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Ritchie333: Thanks also for not referring me for sectioning.

Dwpaul ^Talk 22:15, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Would I come down like a ton of bricks? Anyway, if Amaury can confirm he understands the problem and promises not to revert, I think we can uprotect this. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 08:52, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Ritchie333: Yes, I understand. I was going to leave it alone after it was protected had it been just a semi-protection, anyway. Go ahead and lift the protection. :) Amaury (talk) 14:11, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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