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A fact from Eduard Pernkopf appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 28 November 2013 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that anatomist Eduard Pernkopf, who expelled Jewish faculty from the University of Vienna medical school after the Anschluss, was later given space by a Jewish physician to finish his anatomical atlas?
I have in my possession the first edition of the atlas. Does anyone know or have any way of finding out when Schrott's father died? It is possible that those illustrations may be public domain now. What do you think of this Daniel Case? -- CFCF (talk) 14:56, 24 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think that would be great, although I think we should still be mindful of the ethical concerns voiced in the article (which I think the use of the images in the article meets, but might not if more images were used). Would this apply under Austrian copyright law as well? Daniel Case (talk) 18:23, 24 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It all depends on when Schrott Sr. died, but its turning out quite difficult to find info on this, especially for someone not versed in German, and I will continue researching the case. Interesting to note is in modern copies Sobotta's Atlas, Gray's Atlas and Clemente's atlas some of the images are present (original research). I'm surprised this wasn't in the article actually.CFCF (talk) 08:11, 28 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think there is probably enough information about the Atlas for it to have its own Wiki article. That way we can more easily separate the evil Nazi from his work which is widely used by surgeons today, in 2020, even in Israel by Jewish doctors.[1] It seems the question of the morality of using this important work in life-saving procedures has been addressed and answered, and although we continue to condemn the man who created this masterpiece, we still can and must recognize his creation as life-enhancing and valuable. And deserving of its own article. DaringDonna (talk) 09:35, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@DaringDonna: If there are more sources discussing the Atlas indepdently of Pernkopf, sure. We could probably move the fair-use images (if they still are) into it as well. Daniel Case (talk) 15:01, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I edited out some of the statements which were meant to indicate that some of the bodies may have come from Nazi victims. Sabine Hildebrandt's research (cited in the article) shows how the supply of bodies to the anatomy department went from scarcity to glut in the Nazi era and there is little doubt at all - see also https://www.bbc.com/news/health-49294861 ("Dr Sabine Hildebrandt, from Harvard Medical School, says at least half of the 800 images in the atlas came from political prisoners. They included gay men and lesbians, gypsies, political dissidents and Jews.") Shyamal (talk) 15:20, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
