Talk:Edmilson Pedro

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A fact from Edmilson Pedro appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 19 September 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Olympic judoka Edmilson Pedro is nicknamed Bicho Papão, which means "the bogeyman"?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/September. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Edmilson Pedro.

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The result was: promoted by Premeditated Chaos talk 23:58, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Olympian Edmilson Pedro "started practicing judo from the cradle"?

Source: RFI

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nicole Chang-Leng
Comment: Note: this is relying on Google's translation of the French statement "Comecei a praticar judo desde o berço". Requesting a French speaker review this just to make sure it is an accurate translation.

Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 226 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:09, 2 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

@BeanieFan11: Please supply a QPQ as soon as possible. Z1720 (talk) 04:06, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:
Other problems: - hook as written is misleading. it leads readers to believe that he literally practiced judo from birth. if correctly attributed, it'd be something like ... that Olympian Edmilson Pedro said that "started practicing judo from the cradle"?, but that's not interesting, is it?

QPQ: Done.

Overall: by the way, that's not french, that's portuguese. deepl translates it as I started practising judo from birth. ltbdl☃ (talk) 15:39, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ltbdl: Do you think the deepl translation should be used? If so, the options are:
- ALT1 ... that Olympian Edmilson Pedro said that he "started practicing judo from birth"?
- ALT2 ... that Olympian Edmilson Pedro "started practicing judo from birth"?
As for whether it is accurate (ALT0/ALT2), my viewpoint is that it is what he did say – that's why its in quotes (I've had some similar ones before approved, e.g. Template:Did you know nominations/Inman Jackson). Thoughts? BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:56, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- honestly, the fact that he says trained from birth isn't interesting or unusual. a lot of people say that. do you disagree? ltbdl☃ (talk) 06:00, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - I kind of thought someone competing in a fighting sport from birth was interesting – maybe we could get a third opinion? BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:25, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But he did not compete from birth, did he? It's an expression, and I too think it's quite a common one. In fact, if an Olympian had not trained since very early age, that would probably be more interesting. Unfortunately I cannot draw anything more DYK-appropriate from the article either. When I cannot think of anything attention-grabbing, I go for a word play. Perhaps give that a try. Surtsicna (talk) 16:20, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@BeanieFan11: Please address the above. For what it's worth, ALT1 and ALT2 are not in the article and have been struck, and if "Bicho Papão" means what I think it means (Bogeyman), there's a hook in that.--Laun chba ller 09:09, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ltbdl, Surtsicna, and Launchballer: So, something like:

ALT3 ... that Olympic judoka Edmilson Pedro is nicknamed the bogeyman?

ALT4 ... that Olympic judoka Edmilson Pedro has been called the bogeyman?

? BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:48, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Let's roll.--Laun chba ller 00:08, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]