Talk:Echinopsis peruviana/Archives/2020/February

Amount of Mescaline

The information about this cactus containing the same amount of mescaline as san pedro cactus is incorrect. Although both cacti contain small amounts of the chemical mescaline, the san pedro cactus contains quite a bit more of the chemical than peruvian torch contains within in the whole cactus.

"The earliest reference supporting the myth seem to be Peyote and Other Psychoactive Cacti, by Adam Gottlieb. In 1977 Gottlieb wrote, “T. peruvianus is purported to contain ten times the mescaline content of San Pedro.” He makes no mention of where this rumor came from and cites no sources to support it, but the claim remains in the 1997 reprint.

Second is a note in Ott’s Pharmacotheon (1993) where he states that “Mescaline has been found in 12 species of Trichocereus, the highest concentration in T. peruvianus.” To support this, Ott cites the only published reference on the isolation of mescaline from T. peruvianus which showed .817% mescaline by dry weight.1 Unfortunately, he appears to have ignored the data found by Poisson who, in 1960, found 2.0% mescaline by dry weight in T. pachanoi."

However, it is vitally important to remember that the concentration of mescal within a given species varies largely between samples. Therefore, while san pedro may contain more on average, this is by no means a definitive guide.

sources - http://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti_article1.shtml

--172.163.105.41 00:20, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Legality

Is anybody aware of the legality of growing Peruvian Torches and perhaps conseqquences for posession or cultivation? 71.131.30.220 17:46, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

It is legal to grow everywhere. Possession generally is legal unless you intend to eat it. Alan Rockefeller (Talk - contribs) 21:32, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Can anyone source this from a governmental agency? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.208.204.75 (talk) 16:46, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Echinopsis or Trichocereus

I know the USDA says the genus is Trichocereus, but I have heard that most scientists place this species in Echinopsis, which was merged with Trichocereus.

Alan Rockefeller (Talk - contribs) 02:20, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Soon to be delegalized in Poland

This substance is on the list of 18(?) Substances soon to be delegalized (criminalized) in Poland:

Argyreia nervosa - Hawaiian Baby Woodrose, Banisteriopsis caapi - Ayhuasca, Calea zacatechichi - Dream Herb, Catha edulis - Khat, Echinopsis pachanoi - San Pedro (cactus), Piper methysticum - Kava Kava, Leonotis leonurus - Wild Dagga, Mimosa tenuiflora - Jurema, Mitragyna speciosa - Kratom, Nymphaea caerulea, Peganum harmala, Psychotria viridis, Rivea corymbosa, Salvia divinorum, Tabernanthe iboga - Iboga, Trichocereus peruvianus, Benzylpiperazine - BZP, JWH-018 - Spice

the bill (author of the bill: Grzegorz Sztolcman?) was accepted by Polish Sejm (for - 404, against - 5, and 2 abstent)[1] [2], Polish Senat [3] and the President of Poland [4].

Ttg53 (talk) 14:14, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Mescaline Content

This has been added and removed a bunch of times and it never seems to have a source. I haven't been able to find one that meets WP:RS but if anyone knows of one please add it and re-add the information. Noformation (talk) 00:45, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

www.sacredcactus.com

WWW.sacredcactus.com is not a valid source. It's a site based on one growers experience, not scientific research.

There are much better resources. 108.184.239.18, 08:46, 15 September 2014 (moved here from article, Peter coxhead (talk) 08:03, 15 September 2014 (UTC))