Talk:Eastern Neisse

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Proper Name

Shouldn't this article be 'Glatzer Neisse', along the same lines as Lusatian Neisse? The primary river itself is known as the Neisse in English, not the Nysa. Or Kłodzka Neisse. Antman -- chat 16:47, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In modern naming(per rules for naming places in Poland which require modern sources) it is Nysa Klodzka.If you want to start such a move, you will have to follow proper procedures, which you did not.If you will search for modern books in English on Google books from 1992 till 2010 you will find over 364 hits for "Nysa Klodzka" and only 199 for the "Glatzer Neisse")--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 01:43, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually in searches like these it's usually good to include an English language word in order to screen out non-English sources. I added a Poland. Then "Glatzer Niesse" gives 70 hits [1], while "Nysa Klodzka" gives 561. If we don't restrict it to post 1992 it's even more skewed towards "Nysa Klodzka". If you add the English word "river" to the search you get 61 hits for "Glatzer Niesse" [2] and 332 for "Nysa Klodzka" [3].

The English name of this river IS "Nysa Klodzka". "Glatzer Neisse" is the German name, occasionally used, often in conjunction with the English name in the format "Nysa Klodzka (Glatzer Neisse)". Volunteer Marek 15:38, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Seems convincing to me. Could you do a similar analysis for Lusatian Neisse? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 00:52, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I could care less if it is "Glatzer" or "Eastern". The name of the main river system in English is Neisse... just as the river that forms part of the border of Poland and Germany, in English, is called the Neisse, and not the Nysa. Why should the main river be 'Neisse', while a small subset of that same river by a form of 'Nysa'... that makes no sense. As well, at that small number of references, I wouldn't count it terribly important as to what literature uses. What I care about is the intrusion of heavily Polish nomenclature into areas where things already have English names. This is similar to how no one who natively speaks English (which I do, by the way) calls it the Odra-Nysa Line... it is the Oder-Neisse line. Just because Neisse happens to be the German name as well does not make it German propaganda... German and English happen to share quite a bit of vocabulary and phonology, given that they are closely related languages, if you did not know. Antman -- chat 09:56, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]