Talk:EBow/Archive 1
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Brian May too
Brian May used one too —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.210.231.148 (talk) 15:56, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
Bagpipe sound
Why are we calling Big Country's bagpipe sound "infamous"? Infamous has a negative connotation. Wouldn't "distinctive" be better?
Jimmy Page using an E-Bow?
I was not aware of this little factoid. I'm asking a few people that might shed some light on this. --Cooleyez229 06:16, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
- According to a few experts on Led Zeppelin, it was more likely to have been (as far as In the Evening) either Page using a real bow, or using a Gizmotron. Removing Page reference for now. --Cooleyez229 03:35, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Tool
Tool's "Lost Keys (Blame Hofmann)" sounds like an eBow throughout the entire song. If anyone else can confirm this then it should be added to the list. Aquillar142.55.32.209 20:42, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
If you look at the issue of Guitar Hero in 2006 (April maybe?) Adam says that he uses an electronic device used to rip out leg hair on the album rather than an E-bow, he didnt specify which ones but he made it very clear he didnt use it.
Nazareth
Confirm for me (or not) whether Nazareth used the ebow on "Love Hurts." It could have just been feedback (which I used to do "With or Without You" in a band in the '80s), but the original ebow does predate the song, and I've seen them use it live. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Otcconan (talk • contribs) 03:24, 8 March 2007 (UTC).
- "This Flight Tonight" as well.
Weeb Dingle (talk) 17:24, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
E-Bow, E-bow, e-bow, EBow, or ebow?
It'd be nice if we used a consistent spelling throughout the article. Any thoughts about which is most appropriate? Strobilus 01:24, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
I've changed the various spellings (other than song titles) to be consistent with the official spelling--EBow. [1] I also reworked the first sentence of the article in an attempt to clarify the issue. Hamsa108 14:51, 22 May 2007 (EST)
I cleaned up names again. --Frankly, my dear... I do give a damn! 22:45, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
Dream Theater
Doesn't Dream Theater's "Space-Dye Vest" from awake album use ebow to?? Khullah 05:32, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Yes, that's right. I've got a video showing how they recorded this, which proved to be a challenge for Mr Petrucci... --FrodeLeirvik (talk) 14:24, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Kill the list
This article needs a list of songs using the subject as much as Guitar and Piano do. A couple of examples to point out what it sounds like will do just fine. I won't edit because I'm a lazy ass who doesn't usually like to be bold, but please, someone take care of it. And the rest of the article, too. It's a mess. -The preceding signed comment was added by Nazgjunk (talk • contrib) 21:12, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
- Done. --Chuck Sirloin 13:56, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
- After almost five years the list is either back or was never gone. I'm all for being thorough, but this is overkill even for me... Zen Fuse Box? Really? Me not knowing the band aside, they don't even have their own Wikipedia article. Are all these mentions really NOTABLE or do users just keep adding their personal favorite to an already way too long list? I'm going to try and trim it down a bit, no doubt every user ever will disagree with their addition being removed, but I'll use some common sense. Like, removing bands without even their own article, or instances of Ebow use in just one solo or song. Also, while I'm sure many of the mentions have several musical points up on, say Linkin Park, at least they have a greater chance of being known to the general Wikipedia public.OmikronWeapon (talk) 15:38, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
- I think this list will need a regular clean-up, say once every two years or so. I have just deleted more than half of the entries, and added a line stating that performers who have only used the EBow on less than three songs should not be mentioned. Hope that helps. Further, I feel it should remain a list of other notable performers, that is to say, others from the ones already mentioned in the text. Mark in wiki (talk) 14:36, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
- After almost five years the list is either back or was never gone. I'm all for being thorough, but this is overkill even for me... Zen Fuse Box? Really? Me not knowing the band aside, they don't even have their own Wikipedia article. Are all these mentions really NOTABLE or do users just keep adding their personal favorite to an already way too long list? I'm going to try and trim it down a bit, no doubt every user ever will disagree with their addition being removed, but I'll use some common sense. Like, removing bands without even their own article, or instances of Ebow use in just one solo or song. Also, while I'm sure many of the mentions have several musical points up on, say Linkin Park, at least they have a greater chance of being known to the general Wikipedia public.OmikronWeapon (talk) 15:38, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
No More Sorrow - Linkin Park?
Could wep ut that Brad Delson of Linkin Park used the Ebow on the song No More Sorrow on their Minutes To Midnight album? Lpfan4eva1990 (talk) 17:19, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Origins?
The E-bow origins described in this article do not match those of the E-bow homepage.--FrodeLeirvik (talk) 14:21, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
…invented by Turkish musician Erkan Oğur in 1976
The articel about "the Carpet Crawlers" (Genesis) claimes, the the device was used on this track. The carpet crawlers was pusblished 1974… 192.166.192.218 (talk) 13:57, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Robin Guthrie
I've never read any quotes from Robin Guthrie saying that he used an EBow, nor have I seen footage of him playing with an Ebow. His impressive sustain is actually just normal guitar feedback as far as I know. 62.77.181.13 (talk) 16:38, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Heroes by David Bowie
Why isn't David Bowie's Heroes mentioned in the article? If I would have to name a song in which an EBow was used, Heroes is the first I would mention... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.82.210.131 (talk) 20:52, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- It's not mentioned because there's no EBow on Heroes. Halmyre (talk) 07:56, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
they used an ebow for the song heroes check the live version Heroes by david Bowie at the wembley stadion. you see mick ronson playing with one . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.123.105.138 (talk) 21:18, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
- Here is a live take from 1984 (pre-Live Aid) where apparently no E-bow was used: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOhDyTRYf40?t=40 (40 seconds into the clip, Guitar by Earl Slick). And here is a live take from 1992 (Freddie Mercury Tribute) where Mick Ronson uses an E-Bow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quAvfChhWDE?t=6 (6 seconds into the clip). So we have either in the live takes. Makes me wonder what was used in the original studio recording. One Google search later, I found this: Toni Visconti (engineer and producer on "Heroes") explains the guitar sound:
"...the next thing that really moved the track along was Fripp's contribution. [...] Fripp would plug his guitar into the EMS Synthi and Brian [Eno] would just play around with it, so Fripp did exactly that and he came up with that beautiful line which everyone thinks is an E-bow sound, but which is actually just Fripp standing in the right place with his volume up at the right level and getting feedback."[[2]]
Restructure/Cleanup effort
Hey folks, saw this article crying out for some editing magic. It was just one big wall of text...not very wiki-like. Spruced the page up a bit.Archaeum (talk) 01:53, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
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E-bow hit the streets in 1976, even if it was invented before
I find it peculiar that even Heet sounds always making reference to 3-4 songs that was made before the e-bow hit the streets. Now, Steve Hackett never ever used any e-bow on "Carpet Crawlers" or any Genesis albums. "The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway" was released in 1974 and probably recorded much earlier. Same with Nazareths two biggest hits: "This Flight Tonight" and "Love Hurts". The former in 1973, and the latter in 1975. Same with David Bowies "Heroes" although that one was recorded and released many years after the e-bow hit the market in 1976. Guesting guitarist Robert Fripp has never used any e-bow, neither privately nor live, or in studio sessions. He just turned up his amp, stood or sat at certain places and made the guitar feed back naturally.
The common denominator for all these 3 people (Hacket, Manny Charlton, Fripp) was that they were using a Gibson Les Paul of the old kind, that naturally sustained "forever" it seemed. It is much more appropriate to use 80s band Big Country as a future reference for e-bow sounds since they actually used it, exclusively, and took it further than just sustaining notes, i e like imitating bagpipes and so on. Steve Hacket used the Sustainiac/Fernandes pickup later on though. Much later on. The "Carpet Crawlers" sound is natural feedback so to speak, maybe added an early guitar synthesizer called the EMS Hi-Fli Guitar Synthesizer.
I find it peculiar, since all these 3 guitarists have debunked this myth several times in interviews throughout the years. Here is how Robert Fripp did Heroes in the studio. That other guitarists later on had to resort to using an actual e-bow live, when covering the songs, only shows their shortcomings. https://originalfuzz.com/blogs/magazine/84621252-how-robert-fripp-recorded-the-guitar-line-on-david-bowies-heroes
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.219.253.53 (talk) 19:00, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
Coherence
Consider using sentences. For example, "All polyphonic models produced under the SRG brand. Commonly referred to as "Resonators", and monophonic "Sustainers" such as Fernandes Guitars (G-401), Sustainiac (Stealth Pro3),[4] and "gooseneck" microphone stand mounted types (Vibesware Guitar Resonators)." These are phrases that lack a verb. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Empowermentresource (talk • contribs) 01:24, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
Phil Keaggy utilizing EBow
What about Phil Keaggy’s use of the EBow code over the last 4 decades 24.241.134.116 (talk) 06:31, 26 November 2021 (UTC)