Talk:Dust of Angels (soundtrack)

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BetacommandBot 04:04, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Wanting to merge

In ictu oculi, now that the film takes over the base title "Dust of Angels", whose film page is very small, I want to merge the soundtrack page into the film page. Allow me? --George Ho (talk) 06:59, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

My mistake, I thought you created the article. My research skills need improvement. Pinging AjaxSmack instead. --George Ho (talk) 07:50, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

I am opposed to merging the two precisely because the "film page is very small" vis-à-vis the soundtrack page. The soundtrack could be considered more notable than the film itself. It features the first release of Lim Giong's biggest hit as well as superstar Wu Bai's debut. It was pretty cutting edge at the time. It is normal for Wikipedia to have standalone articles for soundtracks is the soundtrack has notability beyond that of the movie as this one does (cf. other 1992 soundtracks). —  AjaxSmack  01:22, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

I can recognize your accomplishments to prove a topic's notability, AjaxSmack. However, I'm cautious about the soundtrack's compliance with WP:NALBUMS. Maybe I'll try to find sources establishing independent notability of the soundtrack. If I found almost none, merger shall be guaranteed. I made the similar discussion three years ago (2013): Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Albums/Archive 45#Notability of Chinese albums, but it's about the albums in general. I also made The Young Ones (1973 film), Rhythm of the Wave, The Story of a Small Town, and My Native Land (film) with film and Teresa Teng albums of the same Chinese name combined. Funny mention: there is the article "Notability in the English Wikipedia". Off-topic, but I have struggled to improve Draft:Edward Leung Yiu-ming, but reviewers in the past have not found that person notable. I was trying to distinguish the other Edward Leung/Edward Leong, but I end up reluctantly agreeing with the reviewers. --George Ho (talk) 04:22, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Also, using one song to establish the soundtrack's independent notability won't do for me. Hey, at least I found sources about just one song. I found sources about the film; unsure about the soundtrack. George Ho (talk) 04:38, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Personally, I think this could be merged. We often merge articles (even if the subjects are independently notable). Merging is more of an editorial decision to see where the info fits. In this case, both could actually fit in the same article. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 08:32, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

I'm not arguing that a merge could not be physically accomplished. However, an article that is nominally about a movie but with 3⁄4 of the text about the soundtrack is not well balanced. As far as overall notability goes, the movie article does not have any sourced assertions of notability either. —  AjaxSmack  23:11, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

I don't follow your logic, AjaxSmack. You're saying that the soundtrack is independently notable, while the film is not? This is WP:notability (fiction) all over again. Readers can read the article and find out what the plot is about and which music is used in the film page. Why not doing what's best for readers please? George Ho (talk) 23:52, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, it was a rhetorical device. I was applying your logic (v.s.) of using the current article sourcing to extrapolate notability. I actually believe both are notable. However, due to content quantity differences (already noted) and typical Wikipedia practice (having standalone soundtrack articles for soundtracks with standalone notability), I oppose a merge. —  AjaxSmack  00:57, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Shall we do the RfC then? George Ho (talk) 01:14, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Why RfC? This discussion is only two days old. Wait for some more input. I can post notices at some WikiProjects if you like. —  AjaxSmack  02:21, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

There are WT:FILM and WT:ALBUM. Also, WT:TAIWAN. Go ahead if you want. George Ho (talk) 02:48, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Outdenting here. In this case though, including the content in the film article wouldn't violate WP:UNDUE. Considering the scant information available, a merge actually works quite well here. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 08:46, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

I have started an RFC at Talk:Dust of Angels#RFC: Merging Dust of Angels (soundtrack) into this article. Thank you. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 05:41, 14 January 2017 (UTC)