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A fact from Dunmore Pineapple appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 28 December 2005. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the Dunmore Pineapple was a folly where pineapples were grown in Scotland from 1761 and that it was built by the 4th Earl of Dunmore, John Murray, who later became governor of Virginia Colony in North America?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2005/December.

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According a Wall Street Journal article by Bill Coles, dated August 22, 2006 (page D6), one explanation is that sailors who retired used to carve pineapples on their gateposts announcing they were returning home. By building this huge Pineapple in 1777, Lord Dunmore was announcing his retirement in a unique, and grand way.

- From Robert A Smith, Cedarburg WIsconsin, creativesmith1 *AT* wi.rr.com

Dunmore's retirement from politics can be dated to the later 1760s, not earlier. The Pineapple is a product of the years of living beyond his means, following his marriage in 1759 to Lady Charlotte Stewart, daughter of the Earl of Galloway, before financial retrenchment in the later 1760s, which sent him to America: see William C. Lowe, "The Parliamentary Career of Lord Dunmore, 1761-1774", The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography 96.1 (January 1988:3-30), especially pp 18ff.) His service as Governor of the Bahamas (1787-96) cannot be credited as inspiring the pineapple (1761), as suggested in the article.--Wetman (talk) 18:23, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. The article clearly contradicts itself, and does not explain how the 1761 building was inspired by his 1787-1796 Bahamas job, as given in John_Murray,_4th_Earl_of_Dunmore#Colonial_governors. It's a pity because it's a neat story but I think it needs to come out of the article unless the chronology can be explained. I'm boldly removing the claim and hope that other editors will approve, or discuss it here. Thanks and best wishes DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered (talk) 13:04, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The identity of the designer of the folly is uncertain, but it is often attributed to Sir William Chambers

Citation? Viriditas (talk) 20:39, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]