Talk:Duke blue

Pantone 287

According to multiple sources on the WWW, Pantone 287 = rgb: 0 51 141; Duke Blue is actually Prussian Blue Tee Owe (talk) 22:54, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Pantone -> hexadecimal are approximations.
The university has established that the web equivalent of Duke blue, in hex, is #001A57.
--Opertinicy (talk) 04:20, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Normally, these approximations are "close enough". In this case, though, the OP has a point – PMS287 is different enough from #001A57 to warrant mention. Here's a selection of references:

Hex RGB	H°	S%	V%	Source
#00338D	218	100	55	Pantone 287 from Duke style guide, RGB from swatch at Pantone website
#00529B	208	100	61	Pantone 287 from Duke style guide, RGB from Alt source 1[1][2][3]
#003798	218	100	60	Pantone 287 from Duke style guide, RGB from Alt source 2
#003893	217	100	58	Pantone 287 from Duke style guide, RGB from Alt source 3, Alt source 4
#00009C	240	100	61	Previous value of "Duke blue" at List of colors: A–F, "Duke blue" at Encycolorpedia
#003087	219	100	53	Pantone 287 from Duke style guide, RGB from Alt source 5, RGB from Alt source 6
#0034CD	225	100	80	RGB conversion of CMYK val (100, 75, 2, 18) at Alt source 6
#454F87	231	49	53	Pantone 287 from Duke style guide, RGB from Alt source 7
#003153	205	100	33	"Prussian blue" from The Origin of Duke Blue, RGB from List of colors: N–Z#P and Encycolorpedia
#0046E2	221	100	89	"CMYK (100, 69, 0, 11.5)" from The Origin of Duke Blue, RGB from EasyRGB, HSL and CMYK from Encycolorpedia
#00009C	240	100	61	"RGB (0, 0, 156)" from The Origin of Duke Blue, HSL from Encycolorpedia
#001A57	222	100	34	Swatch #8 at Duke color palette (labeled "#001A57; PMS288; CMYK 100/75/6/24"), Duke style guide
#0736A4	222	96	64	Swatch #9 at Duke color palette (labeled "#0736A4; PMS287; CMYK 100/72/2/12")
#0030B6	224	100	71	RGB conversion of CMYK val (100, 75, 6, 24) from label of swatch #8 at Duke color palette
#003FDC	223	100	86	RGB conversion of CMYK val (100, 72, 2, 12) from label of swatch #9 at Duke color palette

Note in particular the discrepancies between the style guide and the color palette. The style guide says "The Duke logo blue Pantone color for Print is PMS 287. This same Duke blue for the web is #001A57." However, the color palette says #001A57 is PMS 288 (not 287), and that PMS 287 is #0736A4 (not #001A57).

Further discrepancies are found in The Origin of Duke Blue under "Technical details": "CMYK (100, 69, 0, 11.5)" converts to #0046E2 (HSL 221, 100, 89). "RGB 0, 0, 156" is #00009C (consistent with what Encycolorpedia calls "Duke blue"). "Hue=160 Saturation =240 Brightness=73" appears to be taken from the Windows color picker, incorrectly using the term "Brightness" for what is actually Luminance, and using the non-standard Windows ranges for the values (H=0–239, S=0–240, L=0–240 instead of H=0–359°, S/L=0–100%). Taking that into account results in HSL of (241, 100, 30), very close to the HSL for #00009C (240, 100, 31), and probably what they intended. However, even taking that into account, they've still specified two additional self-inconsistent values (#00009C and #0046E2) in addition to the supposed #001A57. Of course, the section starts with "Duke Blue is registered as number 287 in the Pantone® Color Matching System. Colors in the range of Pantone® numbers 283 to 289 are used for Duke Blue," adding 6 more Pantone colors and at least 42 more possible RGB simulations to the possible values. While there is clearly variance in how colors are represented in/on different physical media, the range being represented here seems unreasonably wide.

(Note that Duke blue blindly copied the 4 self-inconsistent values for hex, RGB, HSV, CMYK from this source. I've set everything to values consistent with #001A57 for now). —[AlanM1(talk)]— 01:25, 30 October 2013 (UTC), edited —[AlanM1(talk)]— 11:14, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

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