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Reviewer:Status {talkcontribs  06:11, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Are you planning to start this review anytime soon? Jezhotwells (talk) 17:45, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Initial review

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Sorry for the wait. Hopefully we can get this done pretty quickly to make up for it. :)

Infobox
  • If I remember correctly, wasn't there a cover for the song? Why was it removed?
It was fanmade. Pancake (talk) 19:42, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Lead
  • Seems a bit odd to be listing that the song was written by Joe Jonas, Kevin Jonas II and Nick Jonas, while saying it was produced by the Jonas Brothers. Why not just shorten it to: "It was written by Lovato, along with the Jonas Brothers, who also produced the song with John Fields..."
  • for Lovato's debut studio album, Don't Forget (2008). --> for Lovato's debut studio album, of the same name. (2008)
  • According to Lovato, it is one of the songs on the album that she relates to the most. + It was inspired by Lovato falling in love with someone who left her. --> The song's inspiration came from Lovato falling in love with someone who later left her. According to Lovato, it is one of the songs on the album that she most relates to.
  • "Don't Forget" was released as the album's third and final single on March 17, 2009 through Hollywood Records + Musically, the song is a midtempo glam rock ballad that features Lovato singing with breathy falsetto vocals. --> Musically, "Don't Forget" is a midtempo glam rock ballad that features Lovato singing with breathy falsetto vocals. It was released as the third and final single from the album on March 17, 2009 through Hollywood Records.
  • The song received generally positive reviews from critics, who noted the transition from her "tween sound" to more mature material. The song achieved commercial success on the Billboard Hot 100, reaching number forty-one, making it Lovato's highest peaking solo single at the time. The single also reached number seventy-six on the Canadian Hot 100. --> The song received generally positive reviews from music critics, who noted the transition from her "tween sound" to more mature material. The song achieved moderate commercial success on the Billboard Hot 100, reaching number forty-one, making it Lovato's highest peaking solo single at the time. The song also reached number seventy-six on the Canadian Hot 100.
All is  Done
  • Can't something more about the video be added? Like what goes on in the video? And I'm not really sure "Different video treatments had been written for the clip, but Lovato rejected them as she wanted to do it her way." is relevant enough for the lead.
Maybe something about it being shot outside in the rain for several hours? Pancake (talk) 19:42, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, and a bit about the synopsis. And actually, that part could still be in there. I didn't see the importance of it until later on. — Status {talkcontribs  19:53, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's done. Pancake (talk) 18:34, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Background
  • "Don't Forget" was written by Lovato, Joe Jonas, Kevin Jonas II and Nick Jonas, and produced by the Jonas Brothers alongside John Fields --> same thing here
 Done
  • Nick Jonas played the guitar --> Nick Jonas also played the guitar on the song.
 Done
  • The song is also registered as "Did You Forget" --> No need for the also.
 Done
  • The rest looks good, but is it possible to add anything else to this section?
I don't think so, info on Demi's old songs tend to not exist. Pancake (talk) 19:42, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Composition
  • "Don't Forget" is a midtempo glam rock ballad. Lovato opens the song with vulnerable and breathy vocals in a falsetto tone --> These lines don't really flow together too well. And the first sentence seems a bit too short.
Do you suggest merging the sentences in some way? Pancake (talk) 19:42, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know if that would work well. Is there anything else that can be said along the lines of it being a midtempo glad rock ballad? Or maybe since most of the song is breathy, what about: "Don't Forget" is a midtempo glam rock ballad sung with vulnerable and breathy vocals in a falsetto tone. — Status {talkcontribs  19:53, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 Done
Reception
  • “21st Century Breakdown” --> should be '21st Century Breakdown' because it's listed in quotation marks.
  • “Don't Forget” --> same here
  • Due to strong digital sales in October 2008 --> can we have a date?
  • and fell off the chart the next week --> and fell off the chart the following week
 Done
Music video
  • Any information about the filming of the video? Where it was filmed, etc?
No. Pancake (talk) 19:42, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I just noticed there's no information regarding the release of the single. Where the March 17, 2009 date comes from, etc. — Status {talkcontribs  19:55, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You can read this discussion I had with Novice and Ipodnano. I had troubles finding a release date for this song. It just doesn't exist. But the discussion here came to conclusion that a song reviewed by Billboard (who obviously know what they're doing) under the section "Billboard Reviews: Singles" (none of Demi's other singles have been reviewed here) is a single. I feel most comfortable changing the release date to April 2009 since Billboard supports that, but nothing supports March 17, 2009. Pancake (talk) 18:34, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Seems fine then to me. Thanks for showing me the discussion. This is quite simialr to "Like a Surgeon". — Status {talkcontribs  07:45, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And another thing, don't you think a live performances section could be made? I mean, she probably has performed the song live more than just on Ellen; on all her shows since it's release, yes?

I'll start on this as soon as the "Get Back" review is done. Pancake (talk) 18:34, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'll go over everything once more after you get that done. :) — Status {talkcontribs  07:45, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"Live performances" has been added. Thanks for reminding me. I had almost forgotten about this :P Pancake (talk) 14:26, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Discussion

I'll begin working on all the remaining issues some other time. School starts tomorrow, so I don't have much time now. :) Pancake (talk) 20:11, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh damn. I'm sorry, you probably wanted to have this done before school begun. Good luck, and take your time! :) I'll put the review on hold for a period of two weeks to give you some time to fix it up. — Status {talkcontribs  20:15, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It's okay! I will have time to fix it after school. Anyway, it's soon 11 pm here and I really must try to fall asleep before 4 am for once. bye for now :) Pancake (talk) 20:22, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, I missed seeing this message. I'll still leave the two weeks offer open anyway, just in case. — Status {talkcontribs 05:27, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Second lookthrough

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Just a quick lookthrough to see if any errors were missed, or made in the review process.

Lead
  • ...who produced it... --> ...who produced the song...
  • The song features Dorian Crozier and Michael Bland on drums. --> Not really necessary, is it?
  • ...moderate commercial success on the Billboard Hot 100, reaching number forty-one... --> moderate commercial success, reaching number forty-one on the Billboard Hot 100...
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Background
  • Looks good
Composition
  • Looks good, although the caption on the sample doesn't describe what the sample is, which it should. And also, listening to it, wouldn't it be better to use a sample of the chorus of the song? That's usually what a lot of articles use.
"Somewhere we went wrong..." is actually the chorus. Pancake (talk) 14:17, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Reception
  • Ed Masley of The Arizona Republic included the song at number two on his "Top 10 from the Disney girls" list --> Ed Masley of The Arizona Republic included "Don't Forget" on his "Top 10 from the Disney girls" list at number two...
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Music video
  • Myspace --> MySpace
It has actually been officially changed to Myspace. Pancake (talk) 14:17, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Can we have a screenshot from the video here?
Don't think any would pass NFCC. Pancake (talk) 14:17, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Live performances
  • ...featuring recorded live versions. --> of what?
  • ...which was released as Demi Lovato: Live: Walmart Soundcheck, featuring recorded live versions on a CD, and the full performances on a DVD. --> ...which was later released as part of a live album entitled Demi Lovato: Live: Walmart Soundcheck (2009). The release featured recorded live versions of the performers on a CD, and the full performances on a DVD.
 Done
Credits and personnel
  • Demi should be linked as well.
 Done
  • Why not just credit the Jonas Brothers once? Ex: Jonas Brothers (Their names) - writers, producers
They are only credited together for producing the song. Besides, Nick Jonas would need his own credit for guitars and percussion. Pancake (talk) 14:17, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Charts
  • All good here.
References
  • If you're going to link URL's in refrences, do it for all of them. Ex: Refs 10, 11 and 14 are unlinked, while ref 12 is.
Ref 12 is not my decision. It is {{singlechart}} that links it. Pancake (talk) 14:17, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Result

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I am passing the article. :) Good work! — Status {talkcontribs  20:36, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]