Talk:Doina
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IPA
[edit]The pronunciation in IPA is currently not correct. It is not j as "yes". It is just some kind of [i]. I don't know how to correct it, so I leave it as it is. MauriceM3 (talk) 09:54, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Bartok
[edit]Very bizarre article. It doesn't tell much about what Doina is, it just says it's influenced by Turkish or I don't know what. First of all, what Bartok wrote is not to be taken into account considering the date of that writing - after Trianon. It seems to me he was full of prejudices against the Romanian folklore. He was a Hungarian nonetheless and his chauvinism transpires in every word written in that book regarding Romanian folklore and Romanians in general. And all of this without any kind of evidence to sustain its offensive POV. How come if it's inspired by Turkish you cannot find anything like this in Turkish or in the folklore of nations that were clearly and massively influenced by Turkish folklore, like in the Balkans South of Danube. The spreading of Doina also supports the fact that this form of song has nothing to do with the Turks.
As for Garfias, he made some strange connections also, but while he may be wrong, we cannot suspect him of bad intentions. It is not scientific to study Romanian folklore only with the intention of finding Turkish influences. Still he doesn't make ridiculous statements like Bartok did. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adr2ian (talk • contribs) 20:19, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- In fact, Bartok praised the Romanian folklore. The problem is that some Romanians select from Bartok's writings only what they like - everything that contradicts their nationalistic pride is garbage. Bartok's statement was made after analyzing hundreds of songs and no musicologist thought he was biased. Just some Romanians didn't like him talking about the foreign influences and turned him into an anti-Romanian demon. The doina characteristics are presented in the article and they are common for the entire family of related genres. Kenshin (talk) 09:19, 19 November 2009 (UTC)