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Impressive

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Nice new page! Kukini 05:40, 18 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Islamabad and FATA

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Currently the lead includes this sentence:

The divisions do not include the Islamabad Capital Territory or the Federally Administered Tribal Areas, which are counted at the same level as provinces.

It seems to me this should be changed to this:

The Islamabad Capital Territory and the Federally Administered Tribal Areas, which are counted at the same level as provinces, are not subdivided into divisions.

Or perhaps this:

The Islamabad Capital Territory and the Federally Administered Tribal Areas are counted at the same level as provinces. The Capital Territory is divided into zones rather than divisions. The Tribal Areas are subdivided into Frontier Regions and Tribal Agencies.

Or perhaps this article should list the zones, Frontier Regions and Tribal Agencies? YBG (talk) 16:58, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Clarification

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Is there a better way to write this?

"Three of the provinces of Pakistan were subdivided into ten administrative divisions. The single province in the eastern wing, East Bengal, had four divisions – Chittagong, Dacca, Khulna and Rajshahi. The province of West Punjab had four divisions – Lahore, Multan, Rawalpindi and Sargodha. The North-West Frontier Province (as it was then called) had two divisions – Dera Ismail Khan and Peshawar. Most of the former Sind Province became Hyderabad Division."

I'm not sure I understand why Sind is separated out as "former Sind Province" if we're talking about 1947, or why it's mentioned that "most" of it became Hyderabad Division without mentioning whatever the "rest" of it became. Criticalthinker (talk) 09:41, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Criticalthinker: As far as I understand it:
  • until 1936, most areas that are now the province of Sindh, formed the Sind Division of the Bombay Presidency.
  • the only area currently in Sindh Province, but not in the above Sind Division, was the princely state of Khairpur.
  • in 1936 the Sind Division became the separate province of Sind, consisting of eight districts including Karachi District.
  • in 1947, Karachi District became the Federal Capital Territory, separate from the other provinces, states and territories.
  • In 1955, the provinces in western Pakistan were combined into the West Pakistan province, including Sind Province and the princely states such as Khairpur. but excluding the Federal Capital Territory. The areas that had been Sind Province were combined with Lhairpur to form Hyderabad Division (the divisions were named after their capital cities).
  • In 1971-1974, the Hyderabad Division was merged with the Federal Capital Territory to form the current province of Sindh, with the provincial ″name changed around 1980 by the addition of the letter "h".

Gedrose (talk) 14:32, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. But which period is the paragraph I excerpted talking about? I'm reading it chronologically to be talking about independence. But if that's the case how does "Most of the former Sind Province became Hyderabad Division." make sense, and what if most of it did, what did the rest of it become? Perhaps this paragraph is talking about 1955? Were there not divisions between 1936 and 1947? If that's the case, it needs to be made plain and clear that that was the case. Criticalthinker (talk) 00:19, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Criticalthinker: - I don't think there were any divisions in Sind from 1936-1955. By "most" it means all the districts except Karachi district (the same as the current Karachi division). The "rest" (ie Karachi district) became the Federal Capital Territory. Gedrose (talk) 10:08, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This would be something good to find out. Because as that excerpted part reads, it does not speak of "districts" but rather:
"Three of the provinces of Pakistan were subdivided into ten administrative divisions."
I feel perhaps we're not understanding each other? This paragraph is in a section that speaks to administrative subdivisions as of 1947. If thee were not Divisions of the provinces, but rather Districts of the provinces, then the wording needs to be changed. But before that, we have to have a source stating this. This entire article is supposed to be about DIVISIONS of the country, a very specific type of subdivision, not the DISTRICTS. Criticalthinker (talk) 10:55, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, this can't be right. Because Hyderabad Division existed before 1955. I'm really confused as to why this can't be nailed down. How many districts did Sind have before 1955? Criticalthinker (talk) 10:38, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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