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Rjensen, your last revert made no mention of the objections which I raised in my edit summary. This article is supposed to focus on Adams's service as a diplomat, not as president. You're totally wrecking the article by adding material that should go in the presidency section. Adams was not a diplomat in 1798; he was the president. Please revert and add this material to the Presidency of John Adams article. Display name 99 (talk) 23:25, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I understand now why you changed the title. But it's still important to have an article that focuses on his diplomatic service. He wasn't a diplomat as president by any means. All of that should go in the presidency article and the title of this article switched back. Display name 99 (talk) 23:48, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I was the one who suggested this article in the first place and of course his diplomacy as president is very important--indeed more important than his earlier roles. So the article works well covering his relations primarily with France over 25 years. and it can be expanded easily -- eg Haiti for example. Rjensen (talk) 00:05, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
But we already have an article that can cover that. Why not devote an article exclusively to his time as a diplomat while he already have one for his four years as president? Display name 99 (talk) 00:11, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
you want to spread his diplomacy over three articles--with heavy overlaps? No need for that. The presidency article has a poor section on foreign policy--it is totally oblivious to the large scholarly literature on American diplomacy--not a single major book or article on diplomacy is used!! We can fix that here. Rjensen (talk) 00:20, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You're the one creating the overlaps. This article should focus exclusively on his pre-presidency and not on his presidency. You say the presidency article has a poor foreign policy section-fix it there, not here. Display name 99 (talk) 01:11, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
the term "diplomacy" means presidential policies. Diplomats carry out president's diplomatic policies--ambassadors are the representative of the president--they do not make policy. Here are recent book titles:Summit diplomacy;: Personal diplomacy of the President of the United States ; Roosevelt Diplomacy and World War II; Velvet on Iron: The Diplomacy of Theodore Roosevelt; The President's Table: Two Hundred Years of Dining and Diplomacy; The Real Rebalancing: American Diplomacy and the Tragedy of President Obama's Foreign Policy; The Politics of Diplomacy: U.S. Presidents and the Northern Ireland Conflict, 1963-1998; Wind over Sand: The Diplomacy of Franklin Roosevelt.... etc etc Rjensen (talk) 01:22, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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