Talk:Dinosaucers/Archives/2024/September
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Coca Cola
How come Coca Cola has the rights on these characters? And why haven0t they exploit them?
- Because it's not worth the time or money anymore. I think I still have one of the VHS from when I was 8, I'm going to see if it's still working to fill in a few holes. I think it may have been the only episode where Allo 'devolved', and I have a vauge memory of him being captured by Rex. Morgrim 15:34, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
- That would be the first episode Dinosaur Valley and that is correct. It is the only time Allo dinovolved in the whole series. He wasn't actualy captured by Rex but was acting as if he was to get in close to the other regular dinosaurs who the Tyranos were trying to catpure. Bronto Thunder also dinovolved in this episode but he would use the ability again in another episode. For all the big deal they made about this ability in the opening episode it was rarely used in the series.
- But to answer the question here the reason Coke isn't exploiting them is that it's a pretty dead show now. It's been on cable for a very long time in reruns and there was only one season worth of episodes. A one season series that was on cable with many reruns of it to be found isn't what I could call high demand. Theres not much to exploit beside putting the episodes on a DVD set or something. Besides that there is nothing really to come out of it and not worth the investment. There was 3 or so VHS tapes released a long time ago (which we should make mention of by the way on the article page.. ) with the first 6 or so episodes but besides that there has been no useage of the show in any way. The toyline proposed for it was canceled and the prototypes for those toys have shown up on eBay at various times. But if you are holding out for Coke to put a big investment into this show in the hopes of profiting don't hold your breath. The show had a following and has it's fans but it isn't like when He-Man wasn't coming out on DVD and fans demanded it and it finally happend. Those episodes weren't on TV for a very long time in the US and it was a big deal when they finally did show up on DVD. A Dinosaucers DVD set is possible only if another company buys the rights to do so if I had to guess. Otherwise I'll bet Coca Cola doesn't even put a seconds thought into this show at any time. PantheraLeo 01:06, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
- With all the changing of hands, I'm uncertain whether or not Coke still owns the rights to this cartoon. It certainly wouldn't make sense to keep it while offloading all of its other entertainment holdings to Sony, as it says in the Trivia section. My curiosity is piqued :) I'll see if I can track this bit of info down. GreyWyvern 17:57, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Video Titles?
Hey PantheraLeo, the correct title of the episode 32 is Monday Night Clawball. Was it really billed as Monday Night Football on the VHS release? If so, it should be noted.GreyWyvern 11:30, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- No I made a mistake. Must have had the real game on my mind at the time
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/6303139221/qid=1151015481/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/104-9991343-5539147?%5Fencoding=UTF8&s=video&v=glance&n=404272 Is the link to the video cover. And yes it is clawball. Ill make the proper changes. Oops :) And I can't put better dates then 1994 for the American VHS's as the dates are dispusted. Amazon shows random dates for release while other sites show the same 1994 date as the release of all 4 tapes. So can't verify what the actual dates for those are but I'm pretty sure the acutal dates of release were in 1994. Not late 90's like Amazon is saying for some. PantheraLeo 22:32, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
People behind the names...
The IMDB says Michael E. Uslan and Michael Uslan are the same person. Wow, Mike went on to do some pretty big things! More work should be done linking up names in the credits to existing pages on the wiki. I know Shuki has one... GreyWyvern 12:14, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
I have gotten an email from Bill Fawcett who verifies he worked on the series. I have linked his name in the writing credits. GreyWyvern 01:11, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
That's the magic of WP for you. I searched for Haim Saban last week and didn't find an article. This week, there is one :) GreyWyvern 00:40, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Plesio's Italian Accent
I don't know many Italians, but I don't think I would call Plesio's accent Italian. More like just a raspy version of Rex, which makes sense since the same voice actor did both. I'm removing this statement. GreyWyvern 02:55, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Critique of the Credits
I've just been reviewing some of the ending credits on episodes I have, and they don't match with the ones listed. Obviously they will have changed over the course of the series. Something really should be done about this; my vote is to cut most of the credit listings out and then just list the main staffers, such as producers, music people and directors. The rest of these people just worked at DiC, not specifically on Dinosaucers. ... Of course, I'm open to any other suggestions. GreyWyvern 00:31, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
- Personally I think thats a great idea. I think all those people that really had little to do with the show and wouldn't be of importance anyway should be removed. Just keep major people involved. We don't need a whole list of people who worked in the DiC building or something.. yeah I'm all for any cuts you can do to all those credits on the bottom. Seems to be space taking rather then useful. PantheraLeo 02:39, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
Explicit Content Link
I've been to LavaDomeFive and yesh, there is some explicit content there. What I'm wondering is if there is some kind of WP standard for identifying such links when they also happen to be relevant. I've only edited a few articles so I don't know, but WARNING all in caps seems a little overblown to me. GreyWyvern 20:23, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
- I underlined the word WARNING and put the sentence in ( ) . I don't know exactly what the rule on listing things as not family safe is here but if someone felt that strongly about it at least we can not make it stand out so much. I don't know the exact rules on it either as I've only be here since this year myself. But for now I at least made it look like an attachment to the link sentence rather then just one huge phrase. This is a cartoon series and all so we have to assume it won't be only adults coming here to look into Dinosaucers. I suppose it should be stated that it may not all be PG if the link is clicked so it may not be. I don't know what the standard for such things is. Perhaps the link should be removed eventualy as well if it's found not to be appropriate. PantheraLeo 17:16, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
- Hrms... Take a look here Wikipedia:External links and then browse around on lavadomefive. When measured against the policies, I'm starting to think the site is not really relevant enough for inclusion. There is a neat page about the webmaster and his Dinosaucers DVD project (which contains some original air-date/network information), a forum with a Dinosaucers sub-forum, but not much else that is Dinosaucers-specific. Some of the risqué art is Dinosaucers-related, but does it really add anything to this article? ;)
- Of course, linking right to the DVD project would still require the WARNING, since you could browse to the rest of the site. I scanned the Talk page of the WP article above and there is a small discussion about "Adult Content" on one of the archive pages. I don't think links to explicit (but relevant) content have been a big enough issue with other articles to warrant its own policy.
- Regardless, my vote is to delete the external link to lavadomefive. GreyWyvern 14:29, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
- I have removed the link. GreyWyvern 21:01, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Reptilon was Counter-Earth?
The few times I remember of them flying from Earth to Reptilon, they just showed a trip leaving from Earth, go over the sun, and they already arrive. While it could be that the trip was just omitted for time, or only symbolic, I always had the impression that Reptilon was a planet on the exact opposite side of the sun as Earth. Since it was hidden by the sun, people didn't know of its existence.
- Yesh, this is true. I'm sure the Fine Feathered Friend episode has some reference to this, and I am absolutely certain it was mentioned explicitly in another episode, perhaps the Museum of Natural Humans. In Fine Feathered Friend, Allo has to make a quick trip back to Reptilon to fetch the Dinosorceress, and the trip is said to take 36 hours. GreyWyvern 13:40, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
- Confirmed in episode 25 The Whale's Song:
- Genghis Rex: Hundreds of meteors have hit the Earth.
- Ankylo: Yes, but only one that could've come from a planet on the other side of the sun...
- Genghis Rex: From Reptilon?
- Quackpot: Wah! You betcha!
- GreyWyvern 04:47, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- Confirmed in episode 25 The Whale's Song:
Selected Credits
Many of the people listed in the credits of each episode just worked at DiC and did not really work explicitly on Dinosaucers. Add to this the fact that in the "deeper" credits, names change throughout the series. I removed the credits you added, but left your Producer/Executive Producer division. GreyWyvern 03:46, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Rewrite needed?
Compare with: http://www.retrojunk.com/details_tvshows/157-dinosaucers/
It's clear that one has been copied and pasted from the other, although it's difficult to tell which. --Stratadrake 14:00, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
- If you check back in the revision history, it is obvious that the retrojunk article was lifted from the Wikipedia text sometime after June 30, 2006. The original verbose WP description was added July 11, 2005 which looked quite a bit different: http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Dinosaucers&diff=18581012&oldid=18579728 The RJ article contains all the WP revisions to the text up to my June 30th, 2006 edit where I corrected the spelling of "accidentally". Thus I'm removing the Copyright template. GreyWyvern 14:16, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
- Copy and pasted? You kidding me? I have been with this article for some time and its all original to wikipedia. I think you should tell retrojunk not to copy from here.. this was the original work.. not the other way around. I appreciate you trying to keep things here legit and all Stratadrake, but this was not copied and pasted from anywhere. A lot of people worked hard on this with original and researched stuff that wasn't taken from another web site. Definitely should not be templated as copied. Next time please discuss here before adding templates when unsure. Thanks and keep up the good work and effort everyone :) . PantheraLeo 18:17, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
- GreyWyvern explained it well enough (sorry that I didn't have enough time in the morning to do further research into this matter). The resemblance is what caught my attention first, but considering how many sources already copy Wikipedia (with or without credit)... well, like I said (but probably didn't emphasize enough), it's hard to at-a-glance tell who copied who. --Stratadrake 00:27, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- Which reminds me of the other issue, this article is long on low-value lists and short on more valuable, encyclopedic matters -- tagging as laundry cleanup. First thing to go looks like the theme song section because, unlike trivia, I doubt this can be integrated anywhere else (and it's not really a theme "song" to begin with, just opening narration with background music). --Stratadrake 02:10, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- I agree with removing the theme song, but IMHO, I don't think there are any unnecessary lists in this article. The episode list and credits lists are important information, not "laundry lists" of "minutiae" as the Laundromat page describes. If anything else needs to be cleaned up, I think it's the "trivia" section which contains much information that could just be incorporated into the main description and character descriptions. GreyWyvern 13:14, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- I do notice that roughly 50% of this article's (visual) length is comprised of credits. Wikipedia is not IMDb (nor TV.com), so while they may not be strictly "minutae", I still ask just how important/encyclopedic that information is. --Stratadrake 15:51, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- They probably could be trimmed a bit, but you should have seen them before I took a carving knife to them :) Most of the names in the credits after each episode are not listed here. They've already been distilled to the (arguably) important people. GreyWyvern 04:00, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- As but a recent visitor to this article, I could certainly imagine what it must have been like back then.... --Stratadrake 23:14, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- I do notice that roughly 50% of this article's (visual) length is comprised of credits. Wikipedia is not IMDb (nor TV.com), so while they may not be strictly "minutae", I still ask just how important/encyclopedic that information is. --Stratadrake 15:51, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- I agree with removing the theme song, but IMHO, I don't think there are any unnecessary lists in this article. The episode list and credits lists are important information, not "laundry lists" of "minutiae" as the Laundromat page describes. If anything else needs to be cleaned up, I think it's the "trivia" section which contains much information that could just be incorporated into the main description and character descriptions. GreyWyvern 13:14, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- Which reminds me of the other issue, this article is long on low-value lists and short on more valuable, encyclopedic matters -- tagging as laundry cleanup. First thing to go looks like the theme song section because, unlike trivia, I doubt this can be integrated anywhere else (and it's not really a theme "song" to begin with, just opening narration with background music). --Stratadrake 02:10, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- GreyWyvern explained it well enough (sorry that I didn't have enough time in the morning to do further research into this matter). The resemblance is what caught my attention first, but considering how many sources already copy Wikipedia (with or without credit)... well, like I said (but probably didn't emphasize enough), it's hard to at-a-glance tell who copied who. --Stratadrake 00:27, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Is this animation really created by madhouse? Was this animation really broadcast in Japan?
Is this animation really created by Madhouse? I couldn't find about this product in Madhouse official homepage. Where is the source that this animation created by Madhouse? Also, I couldn't find the source that this animation has to be broadcast in Japan. Was this animation really broadcast in Japan? In this article, Japanese name is 恐竜戦士ダイノサセーズ, but, there is no source I found. (Therefore, in the Japanese version of this article, currently proposed rename.)
(The Japanese also shown in the well because of poor intentions and not transmitted.:上手く意図が伝わらないと悪いので日本語でも併記します。)
このアニメーションは本当にマッドハウスによって製作されたのでしょうか?マッドハウスの公式ホームページを見ても、この作品のことについて見つけることができませんでした。 このアニメーションがマッドハウスによって作られたという出典はありますか? また、この作品が日本で放送されたという出展を見つけられません。 このアニメーションは本当に日本で放送されたのでしょうか? この記事では日本語名が「恐竜戦士ダイノサセーズ」となっていますが、日本語名の正しい表記の出典も見つかっていません。 (そのため、日本語版のこの記事では現在改名が提案されています。) --Tail furry (talk) 03:09, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
- I checked Madhouse's official page and there's no evidence. I went to check the credits and I saw that the animation was done by KK DIC. Ominae (talk) 05:55, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
- This never aired in Japan. It looks like it was only transliterated into the Japanese wiki. Romaji and reference to Japan can be removed from the article. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 08:49, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
- I removed the above points.--Mujaki (talk) 14:42, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
- This never aired in Japan. It looks like it was only transliterated into the Japanese wiki. Romaji and reference to Japan can be removed from the article. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 08:49, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
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