Talk:Dino (marque)
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Material from Dino (automobile) was split to Dino 206 GT and 246 GT on 09:54, 7 May 2015. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted so long as the latter page exists. Please leave this template in place to link the article histories and preserve this attribution. The former page's talk page can be accessed at Talk:Dino (automobile). |
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[edit]I moved the Dino pic to the GT4 page since it is of a Bertone GT4 and not the more traditional Pininfarina GTB Dino that people normally think of. Yes, it is a Dino, and yes it is mentioned here. So it can stay. I'd love a pic of a Pinin Dino, though! --SFoskett 14:41, Nov 18, 2004 (UTC)
I propose making this page "Ferrari Dino" instead of "Dino (car)". It immediately removes ambiguity, and also properly places the Dino as a Ferrari model. Although originally intended to be a seperate marque, it simply didn't pan out that way, and I feel it more appropriate to list as I suggest. --196.2.127.9 13:05, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
Bad idea they were branded Dino, not Ferrari. Ericd 19:52, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
The time line is all worng for the Ferrari Mondial.
it's 1980 - 82 Mondial 8 1983 - 1985 Mondial qv (missing) 1986 - 1989 Mondial 3.2 1990 - 1993 Mondial t
the 308 is wrong too
the i version was produced from 1980 to 1982. The qv was produced from 1983 too 1985 the 328 was produced in 1989, but so was the 348 Some 348 were produced in 1995 too, but I beleive there were all Challnge cars.
New Dino?
[edit]Could there be a new Dino coming to respond to Lambo's new Miura? 192.235.1.34 19:55, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
- According to Auto Express, [1] it's scheduled for release in 2009, as the Ferrari 420 Dino. "In 2009 Ferrari reused the Dino name - although not the Dino brand - for their Ferrari 420 Dino".-Ashley Pomeroy 17:19, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Ferrari denies they're going to build this car themselves, but Maserati hints they will do it, and that the new dino will thereby carry a V8 Maserati engine.
Factual Error
[edit]I corrected an entry under history, it is true that "Dino" Ferrari died in 1956, but the 1.6 litre class was introduced in 1966. Otherwise it would have been pretty bad engineering if it had took Ferrari about 10 years to create an engine, as for homologation causes it was first seen in production with the Fiat Dino in 1967.
link to jalopnik article
[edit]I think it should be removed: that's a front engined mule for a small GT. We don't even know if under that body there's a Ferrari, but even if it is, it's not a Dino for sure: it's, again, a front engined small GT. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.193.49.191 (talk) 13:55, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Body shape, not engine
[edit]I am by no means a ferrari expert, but I was told mulitple times at a ferrari club meet decades ago (and also by 1 person there who owned a Dino) that it was a specific aerodynamic and distinctive shape designed and produced in a small run in honour of the death of some guy called Dino. Apparently his last name was Ferrari. And apparently he was the son of the head of ferrari at the time. Apart from that, this entire article makes a mockery of the attempted rememberance of his death.
These Dinos are extremely rare, extremely hard to find and extremely hard to find any information on. They certainly aren't any sort of 'commoners' cars as the article makes them out to be.
This http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/File:Ferrari_Dino_246_GT_1969.jpg is what I'm thinking of. Sure, it says GT, but the point was mostly the shell. They must have had to make a few hundred road cars since that is required to run a model in B-class IMSA, or whatever they called it back then. Thats why they're so rare?
I have no idea how these fiat/ferrari spyder crossovers and 308s are in the least relevant here. As the warnings above say, this article needs major refinement?
Yours respectfully, Me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.24.134.243 (talk) 15:48, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- They're relevant because, for better or worse, the company who made them (and the 2-seaters to which you're referring), run by the father of the guy called Dino, a Mr. Enzo Ferrari, decided to call them "Dino"s (whether they were just Dinos or Fiat Dinos; the latter used the same engine as the Dino cars to which you're referring) before later deciding to call some of them Ferraris.
- Perhaps there should be a page about the 208/248GT, separate from the page about the Dino line in general. Guy "used to own a 308GT4" Harris (talk) 07:26, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
- As I was alluding to, these blocky cars are all called spyders to everyone knowledgable I've ever met (whether fiats or ferraris). Not Dinos. And they certainly are relatively common. Is this perhaps some american misnaming thing?
- Think I'll stick with model # in future... if only car manufacturers didnt think the engine was the only part of a car. 11:49, 3 April 2013 (UTC)~
- Insert jokes about Ferraris obsession with exactly that here --> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.175.228.227 (talk) 11:49, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Door mirrors
[edit]I think I'm right in saying that all Dino's left the factory without a door/wing mirror which was a legal requirement for car's in Italy. The reason for this was that Enzo thought that it spoilted the line of the car. Not sure if it is worth including in the article? Bjmullan (talk) 23:27, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Dino 246 Tasman(ia)
[edit]Is the name really Tasmania? In the Ultimatecarpage page referenced it's just called the Tas[2], and in the other reference [3] I'm not filled with confidence it's not just a translation error as they describe it racing in the "Tasmania Series" instead of Tasman Series. (I suppose it's more than possible they made a mistake when naming it?) A7V2 (talk) 22:56, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
- Hi, I tend to stick to manufacturers rendition of their products: ie Dino 246 Tasmania, other sources can and will use easier names or more common ones like Ferrari Dino etc. YBSOne (talk) 07:17, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
- Also consider that a name "Tasman" may have been registered and products cannot be named as such, today Ferrari is not using Tour de France name but tdf instead (officialy they never did anyway). YBSOne (talk) 07:20, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
- There are rare situations when manufacturer makes a mistake like they insist on naming Dino 166P and not as, in my opinon, should be Dino 166 P. This obvious mistake is being copied by others. YBSOne (talk) 07:24, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
Why not Fiat Dino?
[edit]Why not? Fiat Dino Or else, why not rename this to Ferrari Dino. And even then, there's an argument for still including the Fiat. Andy Dingley (talk) 18:51, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
- Dino (automobile) is a Ferrari marque not a model. The article should in fact be named as Dino (marque). YBSOne (talk) 18:17, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- You mean the same Dino marque that the Fiat carried? Andy Dingley (talk) 18:49, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Dino was the brand; there were no Ferrari badges on Dinos. Mr.choppers | ✎ 21:10, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- So why exclude the Fiat Dino? Andy Dingley (talk) 21:40, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- It was named "Fiat Dino" because it used the Dino engine, not because it was a Dino brand car. See here. Mr.choppers | ✎ 22:09, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Here is a Fiat Dino chassis plate. Mr.choppers | ✎ 22:16, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- And a Ferrari 246 Dino has a "manufactured by Ferrari" plate. The cam covers on both are cast 'Dino'. Now if this was the 'Ferrari Dino' article, then a Fiat isn't a Ferrari. But for Dino (marque), then it should have more mention. Andy Dingley (talk) 09:25, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Again, this article is about a Ferrari manufactured cars under Dino brand. If You need it to include other Dino names, add a "see also" section mentioning Fiat Dino. "Ferrari 246 Dino" is just a common name, as they are specified in every single infobox here. There was no car named "Ferrari 246 Dino" nor Ferrari Dino 246, there was Dino 246 GT ("One of just 1,624 Series E Dino 246 GT constructed between 1971 and 1974 "). That badge is an after-market . Also the "manufactured by Ferrari" plaque is present because this is an US-market car. YBSOne (talk) 15:32, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- It was named "Fiat Dino" because it used the Dino engine, not because it was a Dino brand car. See here. Mr.choppers | ✎ 22:09, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- A couple points not covered yet, regarding "there were no Ferrari badges on Dinos." The earlier Dino racing cars covered in this article were badged Ferrari (until the 166P). Also keep in mind, later Dino-badged racing cars were still raced by Scuderia Ferrari alongside Ferrari racing cars and developed in-house by the Ferrari works, as were all earlier Ferrari-badged Dino racers. Additionally, the Fiat Dino existed because of a need to homologate Ferrari racing engines. I don't have a clean solution for how these articles should be named and structured, but if this article is to cover racing Dinos alongside roadgoing ones I don't believe we can simply separate Ferrari and Dino by marque as the history and development of the racing cars is more complex than how road cars were branded and marketed. Prova MO (talk) 19:21, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- A modified car with bunch of non-original Ferrari badges is not a reason fo include a Fiat in a (Ferrari) Dino article.
- So why exclude the Fiat Dino? Andy Dingley (talk) 21:40, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Dino was the brand; there were no Ferrari badges on Dinos. Mr.choppers | ✎ 21:10, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- You mean the same Dino marque that the Fiat carried? Andy Dingley (talk) 18:49, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Dino (automobile) is a Ferrari marque not a model. The article should in fact be named as Dino (marque). YBSOne (talk) 18:17, 15 January 2024 (UTC)