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Dinichthyloidea appears to be no longer in use

Greetings. While recently developing a draft for a Wikipedia entry on Bungartius and creating its taxobox I noticed its assignment on Wikipedia to Dinichthyloidea, this very page. Oddly enough, the page has, at the time of writing, no references whatsoever and a Google search of the clade only presents Wikipedia articles or articles citing Wikipedia. In the original Wikipedia article, its nomenclatural act is assigned to Newberry, 1885 (which happens to be Titanichthys author and date of the nomenclatural act as well) but on both paper assigned to this name and date, these being "Description of some gigantic placoderm fishes recently discovered in the Devonian of Ohio" & "Sur les restes de grands poissons fossiles récemment découverts dans les roches dévoniennes de l'Amérique du Nord" have no mentions of this clade.

By checking the editing history of this very article and the comment right above me it seems the main source for the article was considered dead by InternetArchiveBot and removed on a later date by @RoySmith at 02:51, 27 July 2019 (https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Dinichthyloidea&diff=908048845&oldid=902547474&diffmode=visual). The link to the source appears, at the time of writing, to remain functional in addition to a newer version of the tree which appears to disregards Dinichthyloidea as the main name of the clade. Following citations, only "Carroll, R. L., 1988: Vertebrate paleontology and evolution" cites the name of the clade in question at its Appendix p. 597. The book further cites as a main reference for its classification of placoderms the "Handbook of Paleoichthyology, Volume 2: Placodermi" by Denison, 1978, which due to difficulty in accessibility hindered any further progress on the search for the origins of the superfamily in question.

Nonetheless, the clade appears to have fallen in obsolescence in academic literature as do its conclusion on the relationship between the taxa mentioned on this article, which differ from more modern phylogenetic conclusions on the group (for instance, here and here), leading to a need to edit the article accordingly. It is also of relevance to consider if, taking the previous information into consideration, this page continues to follow WP:N and should therefore be merged, removed or renamed. User:Sclerotized (talk) 18:15, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the ping, but I'm afraid I can't contribute anything useful here. It looks like the edit you linked to above was a perfunctory part of an AfD close, about which I don't remember any details. I'll defer to your better judgement on how to proceed. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:20, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]