Talk:Digital Copyright Canada Forum

This isn't simply a link to a website, but to site used by a group of Canadians who have had considerable influence on Canadian Copyright revision politics. We are deliberately not as organized as the Electronic Frontier Canada to encourage people to become more personally involved. This group had been referenced from other articles on Wikipedia which is why I added it here. The initial page was based on the "about" page for the site which I am the copyright holder of, and thus there is no licensing conflict (I am obviously licensing the contributions here under the GFDL) (Russell McOrmond 13:52, 16 August 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Scrap the about page clip but leave the entry

This group is also an important one mentioned indirectly in the Bill C-60 entry as the source of the largest petitions, not to mention their contributions in the related but separate copyright pledge campaign, or their seminars at conferences and universities.

At the very least this entry should exist to mention the group's involvement in the outcry that killed Bill C-60, and the contributions to the campaign that led to the up to Sarmite Bulte's loss of her position as Minister of Heritage. Toddr38 15:24, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

what to do next

speedy declined, as license asserted and importance asserted. Prod substituted. As for the digital copyright center, you had better add quickly at least one reference from a 3rd party published source, and place the GFDL license notice on the talk page as specified by the notice you received (or WP:Copyright). It is also necessary to send a letter to the Foundation, as specified there. I would nonetheless rewrite the article in the third person. . I'm postponing the deletion for a few days to allow for the rewriting. DGG (talk) 15:32, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Need to leave this to someone else.

I don't understand what is being asked as far as third party sources, or what Foundation is being discussed. If having this information on Wikipedia is considered valuable to anyone that understands how Wikipedia folks like things to be formatted, they will hopefully add things (Russell McOrmond 01:14, 17 August 2007 (UTC))[reply]

All information on Wikipedia must be verifiable using reliable sources. Subjects of articles must also be notable and the notability verifiable using reliable sources. Has this web site been featured in mainstream media? Citing the information in the article using mainstream media sources would be a great step in the right direction! Thanks! Weregerbil 14:23, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Some quick media articles off the top of my head:

ITBusiness.ca: Petition asks government to prohibit TPMs on IT devices

Jack Kapica of the Globe and Mail often references our site and volunteer work.

Jack reviewed Death By Copyright, a site set up by Darryl Moore who is also an active participant at DCC.

Note that I understand why the article says I may be in a conflict of interest for this article, which is why I'm adding these notices here and not in the article itself. (Russell McOrmond 16:10, 21 August 2007 (UTC))[reply]

references to the DCC site

A quick Google search turned up these places that reference Digital Copyright Canada :

University of Manitoba :

http://www.umanitoba.ca/academic_support/ltc/dcc/documents/webcopyrightresources.pdf

CIPPIC :

http://www.cippic.ca/en/news/documents/Public_Interest_Groups_Make_Internet_an_Election_Issue.pdf

Canadian Authors Association :

http://www.canauthors.org/links/copyrite.html

Appropriation Art :

http://www.appropriationart.ca/

The Government of Canada :

http://www.informationmanagement.gc.ca/metadata_e.asp?lid=1279

The Creators' Copyright Coalition :

http://www.creatorscopyright.ca/op-ed/2006/01/

Boing Boing :

http://www.boingboing.net/2006/01/03/canadian_mp_imports_.html http://www.boingboing.net/2005/04/07/canadian_copyright_p.html

Creators' Rights Alliance :

http://www.cra-adc.ca/en/cra-briefings29 http://www.cra-adc.ca/en/cra-briefings31

University of Windsor :

http://www.uwindsor.ca/units/law/PaulMartin.nsf/SubCategoryFlyOut/D680EA81CA45428B8525722000769B7C

University of British Columbia ("Other Resources" for course LIBR 582) :

http://www.slais.ubc.ca/courses/libr582/06-07-wt1/readings.htm

Tech News World :

http://www.technewsworld.com/story/38542.html

Note that I'm an active participant on the DCC site. 216.23.136.226 16:11, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

none of the above are 3rd party published sources--they are either press releases are blogs. A few are external links that should be added there, and I will. We're still looking for a newspaper or profesional magazine article that talks about his group. DGG (talk) 02:29, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Newspapers and professional magazines are more authoritative than university courses and the Canadian government ?

Oh, and the Canadian Government link should probably be http://www.informationmanagement.gc.ca/links-liens_e.asp?topid=42 216.23.136.226 18:42, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Researched print publications could maybe source some of the information in the article. The government web page and university course web page are just link lists with no actual information. "University source" can be a TA putting up a link list, and the "Canadian government" source is a link list where anyone can submit his own web site. So, no, those are not authoritative. Weregerbil 07:06, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Spam removal

I have removed a batch of recently added PR-talk and inconsequential detail. It is not encyclopedic to give the blow-by-blow account of getting a particular petition placed before Parliament. DGG (talk) 02:29, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Citation for "upcoming legislation"

The article includes "upcoming legislation proposed by the Conservative Government. [citation needed]"

Possibly a good citation is:

Geist, Michael. A Digital Economy Blueprint For the New Industry Minister

There are many other media articles referencing upcoming Copyright legislation. While the past Heritage Minister Bev Oda announced new legislation multiple times, she was never able to follow through.

Another possibility:

Gessell, Paul. Verner has her work cut out for her, CanWest News Service. Friday, August 17, 2007

Ross, Val. New Heritage minister inherits a full plate, Globe and Mail, August 15, 2007 (Oops -- behind paywall -- ignore)

Note: I'm not modifying the article as I'm the person seen as having the conflict of interest.

(Russell McOrmond 20:45, 23 August 2007 (UTC))[reply]