Talk:Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The Deep End

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Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The Deep End was nominated as a Language and literature good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (March 31, 2021). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.

Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The Deep End was nominated as a Language and literature good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (March 4, 2021). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The Deep End/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Morgan695 (talk · contribs) 05:56, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Sadly, this nomination quickfails as it does not meet GA standards for breadth of coverage. Over two-thirds of the article's readable prose is a plot summary, with the other sections of the article being incredibly brief; the "Reception" section in particular is only two sentences, and cites only two reviews. (File:Diary of a Wimpy Kid The Deep End cover.png also needs a more substantive fair use rationale, but that's a relatively minor point.) I see that this is your first GAN, so please don't be discouraged by this outcome. The article simply needs to be developed further before it's ready for GA, and I think the best remedy here is to re-nominate the article after you've done that, either through your own edits or by soliciting feedback through a peer review. Morgan695 (talk) 06:11, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the feedback and the review. I'll keep your feedback in mind for future improvements to the article. Microwavedfork (talk) 06:35, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The Deep End/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Pbrks (talk · contribs) 18:17, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to review this article. I'll let you know when the review is finished. Pbrks (talk) 21:05, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Reasonably well-written

Intro

The lead is too short. It should be a summary of the article. A general rule of thumb is one sentence per paragraph. Inclusions of the promotion and development would certainly help its length as well.
Replace RV with "recreational vehicle (RV)".
It received generally positive reviews, and was a best-seller for several weeks following its release. has a disruptive comma.

Fixed Rv and comma. I added a sentence about the promotion event, but I can't think of a way to naturally work a sentence on development in there.

Plot

The following have disruptive commas:
- The family realizes that they can vacation in the camper, and not have to spend money at restaurants and hotels.
- They realize that they are at a fish hatchery, and leave before the owners could charge them with trespassing.
- Greg gets tossed from his tube in rough water, and is forced to drag himself to shore without bathing shorts.
- They do so, but have to hide when the teenagers chase them.
- The family goes to swim in the camp's pool, but has to leave when lightning starts to flash.
- They soon learn that the bridge leading in and out of the grounds was struck by lightning, and inaccessible.
- A skunk gets inside the family's RV, and sprays them.
- Greg reflects on the fact that he made a few happy memories, but wishes he did not have to go through as much drama as he did.
The next day, the Heffleys go to the Family Adventure Center, an activity center, where they ride inner tubes down a river. What is an "activity center"?
The family then goes to a National Forest, where... "National Forest" is not a proper noun.
When they see a bear at night, Manny (Greg's brother) shoots off a flare, which causes a forest ranger to tell them to leave. Leave what? The entire forest or just that specific spot in the forest? Do they have to leave right at that moment? Do they leave?
They later have watermelons launched at them by the same teenagers that did so to the Heffleys. This sentence is very awkward. Consider using an active voice instead of a passive voice.
Juicebox reveals the boy's plan to ambush the teens, which... Should be boys'.
They soon learn that the bridge leading in and out of the grounds was struck by lightning, and inaccessible. In addition to the disruptive comma (above), it should be "... was struck by lightning and is inaccessible."

Promotion

... significantly different than those in the past, to ensure social distancing and other safety protocols. Disruptive comma
Kinney toured with an interactive, drive-through experience with a pool party theme. I don't understand what this means.
Those who went could shoot water balloons from a slingshot, squirt water guns, toss balls at a dunk tank holding a lifeguard, and engage in more activities, all from their vehicle. Obviously, those who did not attend could not participate in these activities, so this is a bit redundant. Additionally, the the final comma is a comma splice, but removing it would imply that "all from their vehicle" only applies to "engage in more activities." In short, this sentence needs a rewrite.
six-foot long should be "six-foot-long".
In the event he showed viewers... Comma after "event".
... with Greg saying "finally, something fun" at the end of the clip as the cover was shown. Comma mess. Recommend writing ... with Greg saying, "Finally, something fun," as the cover was shown at the end of the clip.

Development

He said that designing places that don't exist is a fun part of his job, and that maps such as the one he shared "help make the story real" for him. Disruptive comma
... designing places that don't exist is a fun... Avoid contractions per MOS:CONTRACTIONS.

Reception

Carrie R. Wheadon of Common Sense Media found the book "funny but predictable", and gave it three out of five stars. Disruptive comma.
Pluggedin found that the book was "really good fun", and praised it for its focus on "how a loving family can find fun and togetherness in the midst of the troubles of life". Disruptive comma and period should be inside the quotes.

Factually accurate and verifiable

As Kinney began writing the book, quarantines for the coronavirus pandemic had already taken place around the world, and he knew that he would have to write "a different kind of book". There should be a reference directly after a direct quote.
Video sources need to specify the time at which the event occurs (WP:PAGENUM). Consider using {{Cite AV media}}, e.g. {{Cite AV media |author= |title= |time=(Time event takes place in video) |url= |date= |via=YouTube}}
While not part of the GA criteria, I recommend using {{Cite tweet}} for references from Twitter.
I see no source for the publication date.

Broadness

The plot does not flow well in some spots; what I mean is, there seem to be a lot of sentences that do not have relevance to the main story. Why do these events matter? If they're relevant, then they should drive the main story in some way, which should be explained in some detail. If not, it should be left out. I'm listing a few (but not all) of sentences that felt out of place:
- Greg gets tossed from his tube in rough water, and is forced to drag himself to shore without bathing shorts.
- A skunk gets inside the family's RV, and sprays them.
- The boys fill their squirt guns with ketchup and soda and spray the teens again, attracting bees to them.

NPOV

No issues.

Stability

No issues.

Images

File:Diary of a Wimpy Kid The Deep End cover.png does not have a valid fair-use rationale:
- WP:NFCCP#1: Rationale does not explain why there is no, and could not be any, free equivalent to this image.
- WP:NFCCP#2: Rationale does not explain why the image could not be used in a manner that is likely to replace the original market role of the original copyrighted material.
- WP:NFCCP#3: Rationale does not explain minimal extent of use.
File:Deependwaterballoonlaunch.jpg is a possible copyright violation. I see nowhere in the source where the author released the file under {{cc-zero}}.

Overall

Unfortunately, I am closing this GA review as a fail. While I have highlighted many things the article needs to improve on, that by no means it is a bad article, but it's just not quite ready to be promoted to GA. I recommend requesting a peer review and resubmitting after working on this page a bit more. Pbrks (talk) 21:40, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your work on this review. I'll work on the info you gave me and try to improve the article. Microwavedfork (talk) 22:14, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Microwavedfork: No worries. If you have any questions/need help with any of the above, please don't hesitate to ask me on my talk page. Pbrks (talk) 04:06, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As the editor who did three other Wimpy Kid good articles, I think the plot here is a bit too long. For example, the fish hatchery scene is irrelevant to the overall plot and only lasts five or so pages; it doesn't really need three sentences. Scrooge200 (talk) 04:42, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]