Talk:Devin Hester

Unsupported claim in the lead

He is widely regarded as the greatest return specialist in NFL history,

This statement, made in Wikipedia’s voice is in the lead. I’ve asked for a reference three times. (Personal attack removed) Just provide a reference so this claim can be verified. I looked at ref 106 and it doesn’t mention this. Artificial Nagger (talk) 01:42, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Let's not do the inflammatory language. It's really not necessary, especially in a case like this where the facts appear to be on your side. @StarScream1007: the source you alluded to in your editsum does not support the claim in question. (Frankly, even if it did, I would want a better source than one that clearly has a slant in favor of the Bears.) LEPRICAVARK (talk) 18:26, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Done. I added some sources and context to back-up claim. Thanks, --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  19:30, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Can you please get consensus before making more changes? There are multiple issues with your edit. The first kid you’re making a claim in the lead that is not in the body of the article. Secondly, I can’t find where your source makes this claim. I’m going to lean towards we have some sort of inline reference to back this claim. Putting something in the lead and making the reader to find a source isn’t good. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artificial Nagger (talk • contribs) 23:52, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

I support StarScream1007's changes, although I would recommend switching to "one of the greatest return specialists in NFL history" as that's what most references say. But to your second question, the first source added says "He is the most dominant returner in NFL history". –CWenger (^ • @) 00:14, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Agreed and good point. " widely regarded as the greatest" sounds a bit too WP:WEASELLY. I've adjusted to "one of" --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  00:24, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Besides being weaselly (can’t you just taste the irony?), none of the sources say that, which was my initial problem with the text. When an editor asks for a supporting reference, it’s the duty of those backing an edit/issue/position to produce, not use red herrings like citing MOS guidelines which is not only obstreperous, but just plain rude. Besides, WP:VERIFY is a policy, perhaps the most important policy of the damn project. No verification means no encyclopedia. But to the article, I’m removing “widely” as the sources don’t appear to say this and to use conjecture would be WP:OR. But if the sources say otherwise, please show me.Artificial Nagger (talk) 05:31, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Missing stats

i was reading the profile of devin Hester and noticed there are some missing stats those stats are:

University of Miami sports hall of fame Chicagoland sports hall of fame

I appreciate your time and understand that you excellent. Service is free to the public , but if you get a chance could you update this webpage with the current information

Thanks, 2600:6C42:7400:940:99D:A74C:7E1A:7D39 (talk) 18:13, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

I think this can be included. It seems "Halls and Rings" are in the highlights section of Wikipedia:WikiProject National Football League/Player pages format. I will add them once I find sources for them. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  15:00, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Dead?!?

I believe the claim that Devin Hester died on 30 November, 2023 is false. If true, there should certainly be a reference associated therewith. 12.8.56.170 (talk) 15:46, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

It's likely vandalism - I cannot find any reference to support it. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  16:03, 1 December 2023 (UTC)