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Jarman's mother

I have deleted the phrase "and his mother was of half-Jewish descent" (whatever that may mean), which seems to be of no relevance whatsoever, and is not developed further in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hafniensis (talk • contribs) 10:12, 27 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

of course it is important

it is part of his ancestry and those things can inspire people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.247.247.251 (talk) 13:39, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

the unavailability of Jarman films

Wishing to show Caravaggio to a friend, I was dismayed to discover the film is currently unavailable on VHS or DVD. This seems to be the case both in the U.S. and U.K. (although there seems to be a rare Italian-subtitled DVD, on the European 2 standard, which comes up occasionally on eBay). I couldn't find any copies of Wittgenstein, which I would also love to see again. Does anyone know why this is the case? Sandover 10:46, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

'near the nuclear power station'?

Why does the 'Life' section say 'his illness prompted him to move to Prospect Cottage, Dungeness in Kent, near the nuclear power station'? Is there evidence that he specifically intended to be near the power station, in some way relating to his illness? If not, why is the power station mentioned at all? Presumably he was near quite a few other things that don't deserve mention. I look forward to receiving an answer; in the absence of one I'll remove the reference. Dubbin (talk) 21:08, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The only other things are old beach huts and shingle; lots and lots of shingle. See Map at http://g.co/maps/4jxpy

The Tate has some info on his reasons for moving there. http://www.tate.org.uk/whats-on/tate-britain/exhibition/art-garden/art-garden-artists-gardens/art-garden-artists-gardens-2 Chaotic Doire (talk) 09:43, 17 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Jarman's age

Hi, Derek Jarman died in 1994, at the age of 52. However, the fast facts, stated under his picture, on the right side of the page do not mention the date of his death and put him at 70 years of age. Please correct that!

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This is a review not an encyclopedia entry

There are so many problems with this that, if subjected to wiki scrutiny, there wouldn't be much left. If whoever crafted all the POV commentary and original research has the motivation, it would be really good to see all the various statements given proper references, as per wiki requirements. Because DJ was a well-endowed nice guy and campaigner for good things, shouldn't mean he is treated any less generously in terms of the referencing of statements about him. I've taken out a few of the more obvious opinions, and am loathe to do what I fear needs to be done. But it would be great if someone did what was needed to take the near-three-year-old tag off the top. Bluehotel (talk) 13:18, 16 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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The Wikipedia page states "In 1989, Jarman's film War Requiem brought Laurence Olivier out of retirement for what would be Olivier's last screen performance." Unlike the other films, the "War Requiem" has no background. The 1989 War Requiem (film) was a cinematic adaptation of composer Benjamin Britten's musical piece [1].

The Wikipedia pages does include that Derek Jarman was a author, however it does not include any detailed information on the books. The book "Derek Jarman's Gardaen" is a personal account on how his garden evolved from 1989 until his death in 1994. I also noticed that his beautiful garden was a direct contrast to its location, a nuclear power plant. Jarman was able to produce a lively beautiful garden in the most inhospitable place. I think this is very important to include this because his garden paralleled his life in a way, especially the struggles he faced with AIDS.[2]

Since he was an author of several books, I think there should be a separate list titled books instead of them being mentioned under other works.
I also think each book should be discussed a little because the books don't have their own Wikipedia page. So the only description of the books is coming directly from any website that is selling them.
Modern Nature and Smiling in Slow Motion, were important pieces and I think there should be a description in his Wikipedia page.[3/4]

Here is my bibliography: 1. Cooke, Mervyn. Britten: War Requiem. Cambridge Univ. Press, 2005. 2. Jarman, Derek, and Howard Sooley. Derek Jarmans Garten. Berlin: Verl. Volk Und Welt, 1996. Print. 3. Jarman, Derek. Modern Nature. Woodstock (N.Y.): Overlook, 1994. Print. 4. Jarman, Derek. Smiling in Slow Motion. Minneapolis: Minn., 1989. Print. Almajacinto (talk) 00:38, 18 October 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Almajacinto (talk • contribs) 00:11, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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mmurphy36 Peer Review

Lead: Lead is too brief. I think it would be beneficial to include a mini description of his most notable work and his impact on the LGBT community.

Structure: Structuring of the article is in a chronologically understandable order.

Balance: Overall balance of the article is good. However, I do think more content and research should be done on the "Life" section.

Neutrality: Neutrality can be tricky when discussing artists and their work. Some sentences within the article had opinion based information that was not cited. For example, in the "Films" section, the sentence " Praised by several Shakespeare scholars, but dismissed by some traditionalist critics, the film contains a considerable amount of nudity [...]". There is no reference to what particular Shakespeare scholars and critics had critiqued the film in this way. It would be helpful to add in that citation.

Source Reliability: One of the references that stood out to me was reference number 16. The website is called greg.org who is a personal blogger that writes about art, film, writing, and the creative process. Because it is a blogging website, the reference may be biased in favor of the bloggers perspective.

Overview: Overall the article has good content and structuring. There is room for improvement and as previously described, neutrality seems to be a theme within the article. Other than that, the article is on its way to improving. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmurphy36 (talk • contribs) 19:30, 14 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]