Talk:Dera Sach Khand

Dera Sach Khand has been listed as one of the Philosophy and religion good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Review: March 19, 2024. (Reviewed version).

GA Review

Passed. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:47, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Dera Sach Khand/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: AirshipJungleman29 (talk · contribs) 18:13, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take this review; it will be used for the WikiCup and the ongoing backlog drive. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:13, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

Is it well written?
A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:

B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, ~~fiction, and list incorporation~~:
Is it verifiable with no original research?
A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):

C. It contains no original research:

D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
Is it broad in its coverage?
A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
Is it neutral?
It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
Is it stable?
It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:

B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
The Hari Dass image could use a little caption like "Hari Dass, Gaddi Nashin 1972–1982".
Overall:
Pass or Fail:

General comments

What makes www.ravidassguru.com a reliable source?
There is no need for the subsection headers in the "Leaders and successors" section per MOS:OVERSECTION.
The article body content could be rearranged so that all historical information goes in a dedicated "History" section, with a "Facilities" section devoted solely to facilities. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:19, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done Perception312 (talk) 14:34, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your feedback so far. I will probably take a wikibreak from the 10th to the 13th. Perception312 (talk) 00:52, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@AirshipJungleman29, I'm ready to continue with the review process when you are. Perception312 (talk) 17:14, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I'll get back to this later today. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:23, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The logo image should be just of the logo, with no text. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:45, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I attempted to change the logo, but it looks nothing like the version I uploaded. Perception312 (talk) 16:47, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Funny, it looks perfect on this wikipedia mirror: [1] Perception312 (talk) 17:50, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done I just needed to purge my cache. Perception312 (talk) 23:41, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The words "Gaddi Nashin" are only mentioned in the infobox.
"née" is used for a married woman's previous surname, and is thus incorrect here
The dates 11 June 1972 and 7 February 1982 only need to appear once in the body.
Is the lengthy Ronki Ram quote necessary per WP:LIMITED? Could its points not be summarised in prose? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:49, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done Perception312 (talk) 15:06, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Spotchecks

I will be conducting a random spotcheck of 10 citations. Numbers refer to this version:

1e) good
1i) good
1j) good
2h) close paraphrasing, needs to be rephrased.
- Article: "On 13 December 1970, Dera Ballan hosted a large Dalit conference organized by Mangu Ram Jaspal, namesake of Mangoo Ram, to bring new life to the Ad Dharm movement. During this conference, Mangoo Ram and other leaders of the movement commended the leaders of Dera Ballan for their contributions to the Dalit community."
- Source: "Dera Ballan also hosted a mammoth Dalit conference (December 13, 1970) organized by Mangu Ram Jaspal, namesake of the famous Mangoo Ram, to revive the Ad Dharm movement. It was during this conference that the legendry Mangoo Ram and many other prominent leaders of the Ad Dharm movement commended the contributions of the saints of Dera Ballan to the emancipation and empowerment of Dalits."
2k)
- If "The Dera encourages scholars who either carry out research on Ravidas or bring out publications on related subjects." is an attempt to paraphrase "The Dera also publishes and sponsors books on Dalit literature.", it is excessively wordy.
2o) good
4c) good
5a) good
11b) good

Generally fine, a couple of issues. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:45, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, and

Done. Perception312 (talk) 15:05, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have done a thorough copyedit of the article to ensure compliance to GA criterion 1); the article is now GA quality. Congratulations! ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:46, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.