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1. Specific classes taught as a professor?

2. Specific policies as dean?

3. Details of his 7 years at Duke?

All assistance greatly appreciated. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 19:44, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hillsborough High

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Could his coach have been Nash Higgins? Cake (talk) 00:43, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • @MisterCake: Maybe. Dutch attended Hillsborough from fall 1920 to spring 1924, before he entered the University of Florida in either '24 or '25. He played for the '28 Gators as a senior, so it looks like he may have taken a year off between high school and college. Higgins was a football assistant from 1928 to '30 under Charlie Bachman, and continued as the track coach until the spring of '33. I have no sources for what years Higgins coached at Hillsborough High, and cannot make a definitive connection between Dutch and Higgins before 1928. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 01:21, 12 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Finding out whoever coached at Hillsborough before Nash, and why he would leave, nags at me. Cake (talk) 21:45, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@MisterCake: Good question. I had a couple fraternity brothers who played for Hillsborough in the late '70s/early '80s, but they were not the types to know the ancient history of their high school team. Sounds like we need to do a targeted search of old Tampa area newspapers using Newspapers.com and Google News Archive. The Tampa schools were among the biggest in the state in that era, and they will have played schools from Sarasota, St. Petersburg, Orlando, Lakeland and the other larger central Florida towns of that era. Probably did not make it as far as Miami or Jacksonville in that era, because overnight travel by car/bus wasn't really practical given the condition of the Florida roads in the 1920s. I bet we can find newspaper coverage of the Hillsborough football team in the 1920s, though. BTW, Dutch coached high school ball in Daytona and Jax for a couple of years -- I'm going on memory here; this article was the first new article I ever created on Wikipedia, and it filled an obvious gap in the Gators football history, as well as that of the university. He was a key player in the athletic program for 30 years after he was head coach, and had a key role in the hiring of several of his successors, and one or two that got away. I probably need to critically review it now, to see if it still holds up to my current standards. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 21:58, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If say, 1924 and 1925 had the same coach, that's Stanley and then Steele on your teams. Therefore I have to imagine if they left it was a promotion. Farrior and Ramsdell are probably a bit old, but there's so much coverage of Nash and of the players coached by whomever just before him. From reading things such as interviews of Farrior and Dashwood Hicks, I understand Hillsborough/Tampa and Duval/Jax were the two big football schools in the state. In fact, I got the sense it was the only rivalry. Georgia and Alabama really cover their high school football history well, and from that I know the 1923 Hillsborough team hosted the team from Savannah. They did also mention the sense I still get today that Miami is in another state - though they specifically referenced a lack of ever hearing news from Miami in the press. Ocala had a team not held in as high regard as jax or tampa, like a "mid major". Tommy Owens of '28 fame later coached I think St. Pete or Clearwater - I wonder if he and Dutch ever went at each other. Cake (talk) 22:12, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Dirtlawyer1: Looks like the 1926 Hillsborough High Terriers were coached by Nash Higgins, and had Jimmy Steele and Carlos Proctor. Proctor kicked the field goal to beat St. Pete in the state championship game. On St. Pete was "Scabby" Pheil. There was a Ralph Proctor - like the Hoffa guy, on the 1925 Gator varsity. Related to Carlos? Here is a Hillsborough game with Dutch. Cake (talk) 14:15, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hurrah, found a list of coaches. The main guys I wanted to know ended up being Sparkman, Snipes, and Herb Covington. No clue on Snipes - Sparkman has the same name as an old Tampa mayor, referees his own games, and died shortly afterwards, apparently. I found Dutch getting an interception in the '23 St. Pete Game. That Hensley fellow at center would be my great-grandfather. Cake (talk) 03:15, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The History of Hillsborough County says one J. R. Reed was "the first football coach in Hillsborough County." Cake (talk) 20:56, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
That's kinda neat, Cake. Especially the part about your great-grandfather. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 02:09, 21 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Dirtlawyer1: Would love to find an image of Stanley in high school. Is he to be found in the image of the basketball team here? He bears a certain resemblance to the one with the trophy, though never seen his hair in such a fashion. You can see it's confusing to say the year there. Here is the grandma's dad in uniform for the Terriers. The first coaches listed start in 1920, but football at HHS starts in 1907 - wonder if Reed was coach in '07. Cake (talk) 02:32, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, that's Dutch holding the cup. See here. Cake (talk) 22:11, 17 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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