Talk:Dennō Senshi Porygon

Seizures induced by news reports

This article currently includes the following claim

Some had seizures when parts of the scene were rebroadcast during news reports on the seizures.

This claim seems to appear widely in English language sources, but does not appear in Japanese language sources (at least not contemporaneous sources). Additionally, I've never found any specific claims of which particular Japanese news reports replayed the footage in question. The claim is always that it happened, but never any specifics.

Dogasu's Backpack reviewed many different contemporaneous Japanese news reports, and none of them played the footage; at most, they simply showed stills of the scene in question.

In terms of English language sources, they all seem to trace back to this 17 December 1997 Reuters piece by Janet Snyder. Since Reuters is a ubiquitous newswire, other English language sources seemingly relied on Reuters for that claim (such as the CNN article currently cited for this claim on the page, which credits Reuters). I suspect there may have been some kind of miscommunication that resulted in that claim being included in the Reuters piece, because otherwise you would expect this fact to have been widely reported in the Japanese media.

Unless a contemporaneous Japanese news source making this claim is identified, or a Japanese TV news broadcast that does replay the footage is found (or the subsequent apology that would have inevitably happened), I do not think it is reasonable for the claim to remain on this page. --SnorlaxMonster 14:30, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

This article talks in great detail what happened (Google translated from Huffington Post Japan). It is a Japanese source.

Since this article talks greatly about the repercussions and cites news sources at the time, I think it's safe to say that this event actually happened. Zoltan.dulac (talk) 15:39, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

I think you misread the discussion, no was saying the seizures didn’t occur but were disputing the claim that Japanese News broadcasts discussing the issue reaired the footage causing additional seizures after the fact--65.92.162.79 (talk) 05:59, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

GA Reassessment

Dennō Senshi Porygon

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Result: Delisted. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 01:18, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

article was promoted in 2008 with this "review". the article contains many unsourced statements, many duly tagged with {{citation needed}}. ltbdl (talk) 11:16, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

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Production and reception

I just realized there are no sections on either the episode's production nor reception in the article. Should we consider adding them if needed? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 18:40, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Go for it. Charcoal feather (talk) 22:22, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Why are we including the seizure inducing video in article without warning?

A video of the sequence appears in the video, which is known to be seizure inducing to certain people. I believe should have a dialog warning that playing this video can cause a seizure, or we should remove it. Zoltan.dulac (talk) 15:42, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

The text One of the scenes reported to trigger epileptic seizures. Is directly below the video and considering that in the over a decade that we have had this video up no one has complained about getting a seizure watching the video shows that this appears to be a complete nonissue.--65.92.162.79 (talk) 05:11, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Also, we can’t include any more explicit warnings per Wikipedia:No disclaimers which while it allows for some exceptions, none of them apply here and even if it did I see the existing text I mentioned previously as sufficient. Also a look at the archives have shown a general consensus to keep the video so it shouldn’t be removed unless a new contrary consensus is formed. Finally, a discussion at Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2013 August 4#File:Denno.ogg came to a consensus against deleting the video so I don’t see removal as a valid action unless the there is clear evidence that he consensus has changed.--65.92.162.79 (talk) 05:41, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Paraphrasing of study is roughhhh.

Bold sentence below needs some help. I read the paper's abstract and keyword searched a bit. It sounds like the 56% figure refers to a subset of the 25 subjects mentioned in the underlined sentence (i.e. 14 of the 25 patients with a history of unprovoked seizures prior to this incident continued to have them afterward). The researchers called that 56% out in contrast to 9% [sic? I'm too gay to math.] of the "Non-Epilepsy Group" who experienced recurrence (i.e. 8 of the 78 without any seizure history prior to this incident continued to experience seizures afterward).

A study following 103 patients over three years after the event found that only 22% were reported to have had seizures after the incident. 15 of these patients were determined to have had visually induced seizures, while 56% of the patients who did have more seizures following the incident also having epilepsy. The three-year study of 103 surveyed patients also found that only 25 (24%) of them were determined to have had seizures before the incident took place.

I'm really unfamiliar with this event and I haven't read the paper in full, so I'll leave the edit to somebody who's got a better grasp on the whole thing. A G-g-ghost! (talk) 07:23, 4 January 2025 (UTC)