Talk:Denis Compton
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[edit]Do you mean "by the 1930s", since his birth is given as 1918, hence he would have been all of 12 years old and a little precocious even by India/Pakistan standards? Sweetalkinguy 01:41, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- Changed to 'late 1930s'. He made his England debut in 1937. Thanks. Tintin (talk) 01:47, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Compton played his last test in the 56/57 season (in South Africa), but retired from first class cricket in 1964. Agingjb 21:58, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
Quote about running
[edit]From the sledging article:
"Bomber" Wells, a spin bowler and great character, played for Gloucestershire and Nottinghamshire. He used to bat at No.11 since one couldn't bat any lower. Of him, they used to paraphrase Compton's famous words describing an equally inept runner, "When he shouts 'YES' for a run, it is merely the basis for further negotiations!" Incidentally, Compton was no better. John Warr said, of Compton "He was the only person who would call you for a run and wish you luck at the same time."
That conflicts with this article. So.... was the "basis for further negotions" quote coined by Compton or about him as this article says?
--LiamE 15:28, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
- This is the Cricinfo page on D.C.S. Compton, written by John Arlott, no less, which attributes the line to T.E. Bailey. "It was Trevor Bailey who said `A call for a run from Compton should be treated as no more than a basis for negotiation.'"
Pietersen
[edit]The comment about Kevin Pietersen resembling Denis Compton does not belong here. It has nothing to do with Denis, and is a POV anyway, after all, how often did Sir Geoffrey watch as Denis made a Test century? For what it's worth (if anything), it belongs on the Kevin Pietersen page. If nobody objects, I will remove it thence.
- I'm inclined to disagree. It's only POV in that it is someone's point of view, that person being Geoff Boycott, who is entitled to have and air his opinion, which can then be recorded here. More importantly, many younger readers of the article may well be aware of how KP plays but know nothing about Compton and the comparison may give them an idea of the flair with which Compton played. --LiamE 12:48, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
- Here Compton is by far the greater player while Pietersen has hardly played a year of Test cricket. When Bradman said that SRT reminded him of himself, that is mentioned in the page of Tendulkar. I think the same logic should apply here. Tintin (talk) 13:01, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
1953 Ashes
[edit]My only serious memory (as a child) of Denis Compton is that he scored the winning runs (a four) to secure the Ashes for England in 1953 -- all part of the Coronation euphoria that gripped the country that summer. I think this deserves a mention. Escoville (talk) 08:52, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
- Go on, then. :) JH (talk page) 10:13, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
This section doesn't seem very encylcopedic. I'd strongly recommend it's deleted. Any dissent? --Dweller (talk) 11:54, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
- I dissent most strongly. I've only ever heard of Dennis Compton because he was mentioned in Fawlty Towers, indeed it's precisely because all these years I've heard him mentioned in Fawlty Towers that today in September 2011 I decided to look up on wikipedia who he was, and found out he was a cricketer. But thanks to you, Dweller, it's been removed from the article! I'm sorry, but this is an encyclopedia, not a cricket fanzine.--feline1 (talk) 20:33, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
- That you heard of him on Fawlty Towers is unchanged by whether our article mentions it or not. I agree this isn't a cricket fanzine - that's why we edit out excessive amounts of cricket trivia too. And why we do include information about early life, family life and life after cricket in all of our quality cricket biographies. --Dweller (talk) 10:45, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
- Yes but it remains a scientific fact that the most notable thing about Dennis Compton is that he is mentioned in Fawlty Towers. One cannot *prove* this, but it is nonetheless science FACT etc etc--feline1 (talk) 10:58, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
- Very droll. --Dweller (talk) 11:10, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
- I added it again, it was watching Fawlty Towers that brought me to this page, and I wasn't sure I had the correct denis Compton until I read this part.,it is important — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.24.18.151 (talk) 08:12, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
- Very droll. --Dweller (talk) 11:10, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
- Yes but it remains a scientific fact that the most notable thing about Dennis Compton is that he is mentioned in Fawlty Towers. One cannot *prove* this, but it is nonetheless science FACT etc etc--feline1 (talk) 10:58, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
- That you heard of him on Fawlty Towers is unchanged by whether our article mentions it or not. I agree this isn't a cricket fanzine - that's why we edit out excessive amounts of cricket trivia too. And why we do include information about early life, family life and life after cricket in all of our quality cricket biographies. --Dweller (talk) 10:45, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
Orphaned references in Denis Compton
[edit]I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Denis Compton's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Cricinfo":
- From Jack Hobbs: "Sir Jack Hobbs (Cricinfo profile)". ESPNCricinfo. Retrieved 24 May 2012.
- From AB de Villiers: "AB de Villiers named ODI and T20 captain". Retrieved 16 May 2013.
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suggested) (help) - From Keith Miller: "Players and Officials – Keith Miller". ESPNcricinfo. Retrieved 5 February 2009.
- From George Headley: "George Headley (Cricinfo profile)". ESPNCricinfo. Retrieved 27 November 2010.
- From Shivnarine Chanderpaul: "Statistics / Statsguru / S Chanderpaul /One-Day Internationals". Cricinfo. Retrieved 25 April 2013.
- From Viv Richards: "Player Profile: Sir Viv Richards". Cricinfo. Retrieved 22 September 2009.
- From Sachin Tendulkar: "Statistics / Statsguru / SR Tendulkar /One-Day Internationals". ESPNcricinfo. Retrieved 25 April 2012.
- From Harry Kortlang: "First-class matches played by Harry Kortlang". CricketArchive. Retrieved 24 June 2016.
- From Percy Chapman: "Percy Chapman (ESPNCricinfo profile)". ESPNCricifno. Retrieved 17 February 2012.
- From Gubby Allen: "Sir Gubby Allen (Cricinfo profile)". ESPNCricinfo. Retrieved 13 May 2013.
- From Brian Lara: "Statistics / Statsguru / BC Lara /One-Day Internationals". Cricinfo. Retrieved 25 April 2013.
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Journalism
[edit]Is it worth mentioning that after his retirement from sports he worked as a cricket journalist? I remember an article of his in the Sunday Express prophesying that Tendulkar would become one of the greatest batsmen ever, written after he first saw him. Seadowns (talk) 23:33, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, that ought to be mentioned. My father took the Sunday Express back in the 1960s, and I seem to recall that he had a regular column in the paper. I imagine he would have been assisted by a ghost writer, as I doubt that he had any great literary ability. JH (talk page) 08:38, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
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