Talk:Democratic Left Alliance (Poland)
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[edit]SLD uses "Democratic Left Alliance" [1] as its official English name, not "Alliance of the Democratic Left" (0 results: [2] ]
What's the purpose of the link to the article from the Warsaw Voice? It's just another news.
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[edit]whoaaa so I made one little spelling edit and when I refreshed the page everything is all screwed up.... anybody know whats going on? i think wikipadeia is getting hacked or something, maybe by ebaumsworld? they hacked my favorit website like a week ago, could be the same guyz mabe —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.105.4.183 (talk) 07:41, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
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SLD isn't Nowa Lewica
[edit]Since Nowa Lewica is a merger of SLD and Wiosna, I would recommend a specific article for the merger party. SLD is part of the history of the post-communist left in Eastern Europe. Leszek Miller's party has little to do, generation-wise, and policy-wise, with what the New Left is set to represent. Kahlores (talk) 12:40, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
Fully agree. New Left is a new party and should have a separate article. Autospark (talk) 13:48, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- It is User:Arasakacorp who did the editing. He explained his edits that way:
- rewriting the Democratic Left Alliance article
since December 2019 there is no such party as Sojusz Lewicy Demokratycznej, also Nowa Lewica is NOT a new party created by merging SLD with Wiosna. SLD is supposed to incorporate Wiosna, they just call it "merging". For any doubts go to the official Political Parties List -> https://bip.warszawa.so.gov.pl/rejestr-partii/1904/15/nowa-lewica Tag: Manual revert
- blanking New Left (Poland)
there is no point in creating a new page for NL. Yes, the party has changed it's whole branding but that has happened before. I think that we should stick to the facts here, and facts are that NL is a rebranded SLD, not a new party. I suggest creating a subsection in the SLD article for the incoming "merging" (or as it should be said - absorbing) of Spring Tag: New redirect
- So, even though SLD and NL have not the same name, branding, and will change positions on some areas, NL is the legal continuation of SLD and thus the article should be . I don't see the logical argument. We shouldn't be limited by legal shenanigans. We should look for clarity. This idea explains why the number of Polish political parties, past and present, with an article are aplenty (see template). We should follow the customs. Also, splitting in no way limits us to explaining the SLD-NL relationship, whereas a unique SLD-NL article may hamper us as we'd constantly have to remind readers which one we're talking about. Kahlores (talk) 06:36, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
- It is largely irrelevant if indeed SLD and NL are on paper legally the same party. New Left is a new form of SLD, just as SLD was an enlarged and reorganised form of its previous incarnation, the Social Democracy of the Republic of Poland, so a new article should reflect that.--Autospark (talk) 13:44, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Since we all agree, except Arasakacorp who isn't there, I have restored the New Left (Poland) article and changed this one. Kahlores (talk) 15:21, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- This is simply misleading and borderline vandalizing..... There are multiple parties that changed their ideologies and branding in the course of time, the party has virtually NO changes except the name and logo, just because they "sucked up" Spring doesn't mean that it is a new party. Regardless of what they say NL is STILL SLD. Even in their court documents, they set their abbreviated name as "SLD". Just create a new section in the old SLD article about their rebranding, because as I said no changes to the ideology and structures of the party were made. I won't make another edit of said article because I do not want to start an edit war, but know that your view of NL as a "new party" is simply wrong. Arasakacorp (talk) 15:26, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- Also the comparison to SdRP is wrong because back then SLD got re-registered in 1999 after the merging (in this case it WAS an actual merging of parties, not just PR stuff to justify Biedroń's inability to do politics) Arasakacorp (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 15:30, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- This is simply misleading and borderline vandalizing..... There are multiple parties that changed their ideologies and branding in the course of time, the party has virtually NO changes except the name and logo, just because they "sucked up" Spring doesn't mean that it is a new party. Regardless of what they say NL is STILL SLD. Even in their court documents, they set their abbreviated name as "SLD". Just create a new section in the old SLD article about their rebranding, because as I said no changes to the ideology and structures of the party were made. I won't make another edit of said article because I do not want to start an edit war, but know that your view of NL as a "new party" is simply wrong. Arasakacorp (talk) 15:26, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- Since we all agree, except Arasakacorp who isn't there, I have restored the New Left (Poland) article and changed this one. Kahlores (talk) 15:21, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- Can you send us links to the court documents you are referring to? Kahlores (talk) 18:13, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- It is largely irrelevant if indeed SLD and NL are on paper legally the same party. New Left is a new form of SLD, just as SLD was an enlarged and reorganised form of its previous incarnation, the Social Democracy of the Republic of Poland, so a new article should reflect that.--Autospark (talk) 13:44, 3 July 2021 (UTC)