Talk:David Pleat

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This article has been chopped to pieces in recent weeks, why? There is now NOTHING about his commentary career, not even the basic facts of who he has worked for.--MartinUK (talk) 12:34, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

He complained, the article was trimmed up. Off2riorob (talk) 14:24, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

At least keep the basic facts of his ITV work. A few links to reliable sources criticising his work would be nice - we've got enough praise of people who are good at the job, after all.--MartinUK (talk) 15:17, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yea, show us what you have got and we'll have a look. Off2riorob (talk) 15:26, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll have a look. As for his Jewishness, this is well known. He has been involved in numerous Jewish cultural events and frequently written for the Jewish Chronicle. Why do we need a quote from Pleat himself explicity stating his Jewishness. At the very least, how about "Pleat has been involved in Jewish cultural events^[1] and has worked for the Jewish Chronicle^[2]"--MartinUK (talk) 15:28, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Have you got the links to the BLP noticeboard discussin? I could find them if you can't. Have a look at the discussion, his jewishness was one of the things he was complaining about.Off2riorob (talk) 15:30, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your links are not working, has he talked about his jewish-ness? Off2riorob (talk) 15:32, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If it is important to you that jew comment is mentioned in the article it would be best after the complaint if you took it back to the BLP noticeboard. Off2riorob (talk) 15:36, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I can only repeat that if you want to insert poorly cited critisism of the guy and assert his jewish ness that you take it back to the blp noticeboard. Off2riorob (talk) 16:05, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How is what I added excessive or poorly-cited? When Saturday Comes is one of the most adored football magazines, the quote came from a positive article about him, and you've removed the bare details of his career plus his after-dinner speaking, for no apparent reason.--MartinUK (talk) 16:08, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I can only repeat and request that if you want to add controversial additions to this article that there was a complaint and that you go to the BLP noticeboard. Off2riorob (talk) 16:13, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why is this article (reliable source, NPOV, balanced, factual) controversial?--MartinUK (talk) 16:15, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am unclear as to your exact question? I am guessing but perhaps it was not the article but the comments that you inserted with the citation, again, I can see this is important to you so the blp board Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard is the place for you to ask about this. Off2riorob (talk) 16:20, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

To clear up about the after dinner speaking link here that you inserted was a advertising site and a place to book him as a speaker and with prices, so I removed it as an advertising link. Off2riorob (talk) 16:31, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough about the after-dinner speaking, but criticisms in reliable sources are accepted on Wikipedia, according to my understanding of the policy. We've removed the allegations about his private life, which is debatable in itself if sources can be found, but I'm surprised that the existance of negative opinion about his commentary is a problem--MartinUK (talk) 20:52, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yea, lets have a look, if it is widely reported and adds something to the article then why not, I don't see a lot of benefit in this sort of addition.. harry says he is crap. Off2riorob (talk) 11:37, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] The world of fottball, according to David Pleat and Ronny Rosenthal

[2] We're football mad, so where are our players?

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