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Picture

As a new user, I am unable to upload an image for this page. I recommend that any user able to do so, use the image from the State Senate's web page, as it's a public resource. [1]

Dmcnaughton91 (talk) 01:57, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ http://www.flsenate.gov/Legislators/index.cfm?Members=View+Page&District_Num_Link=027&Submenu=1&Tab=legislators&chamber=Senate&CFID=149611996&CFTOKEN=56313113

Classification, Expansion

Added a set of sections that detail Aronberg's political career in better depth and division, providing sources for content as I go. Changed classifications accordingly. User:cchessman

Re-added the sections taken out

Hey, I'm not sure what WilliamJE was doing when he deleted 17,000 bytes of information from this article, but I undid those changes. The article is written in a light that factually documents the achievements of Dave Aronberg, which serve the informational function of Wikipedia.

The lack of centralized information makes it all the more important to know what he's done, and that's exactly the purpose of Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cchessman (talk • contribs) 19:49, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

  • Actually, this article is written like a press release. The purpose of Wikipedia is not to list everything he's ever done. Items that are notable should be the focus. I'd suggest you read WP:UNDUE. Another issue you've got here is the amount of material coming from sites that do not pass WP:RS or from primary sources. While primary sources can be used for certain things, depending on so many of them should be a red flag. Many of these are campaign points and if the only place you can find them sourced is his campaign site, that should indicate how non-notable they are. I 'd like to disclose that I've actually voted for Aronberg when I lived in an area he represented, but I have no affiliation with him beyond that. Niteshift36 (talk) 13:25, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Odd omission

I notice the article doesn't mention his failed bid for state Attorney General. Might need to find some sources for that. It is certainly notable. Niteshift36 (talk) 15:42, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

More detail can be added to his run for State Attorney also. I'm going to work on the latter eventually....William 15:46, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

...William Are you on the payroll of this state attorney. It seems you are protecting his page from anything you don’t like. Please explain why you removed his spouse from the info box and the information that put him on the mAp like his divorce fro. This lady. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monologuebaby (talk • contribs) 16:52, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. I obliged your request to discuss here and then reverted back because it fostered no discussion. I see that indeed the removal of fields in the info box seem suggestive of some kind of bias. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monologuebaby (talk • contribs) 20:14, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

  • First, your allegation about William working for anyone is completely baseless and borders on being a personal attack. Second, if you bothered to look at his edit history, you'd see that he has been working collaboratively on this article for some time now. Third, when you make contentious BLP edits like this and immediately jump to allegations about making edits on behalf of someone else on your very first response, it does make it look like a case of 'he doth protest too much'. This edit has been reverted by two experienced editors. You've defended it with false allegations and hyperbole. I'd suggest you start being civil and read WP:3RR. Niteshift36 (talk) 00:51, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

I asked why someone would remove a field from an info box. What is possibly contentious about the fact that the guy was married. I thought Wikipedia editors were interested in improving the biographies.

I do find it very contentious that someone would bother to remove someone’s spouse or remove the field of “spouse” intentionally. Is it a coincidence that this is in regard to a page of the spouse of a pair political partisan divorcees, and the one who is an elected official? The divorce was covered in hundreds of publications from the Washington Post to People Magazine? If I cared enough, I would make more of an an issue out of this, but I’m not on Wikipedia enough to even be aware of new rules concerning these apparent conflicts of interest. Furthermore, the editor “William whoever “ suggests I tried to circumvent his efforts to keep removing the guy’s wife. I didn’t put that much thought into it but after researching more citations and generating more content, I thought it warranted its own article.

By all means feel free to delete all my contributions or block me or whatever you choose to do. It is unbelievable that anyone spends this much time concerning themselves with Wikipedia. I’m sure I probably know someone who donated substantially to Mr. Aronberg’s campaigns and maybe I should direct this to his staff and recommend he look into including his wife in the Info box because it looks very strange compared to that of other politicians. I didn’t know who he was but I had heard of his wife. God bless you people for dedicating your lives to Wikipedia Monologuebaby (talk) 09:33, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

  • You wasted 3 paragraphs saying nothing of substance. Considering the sheer number of edits you've performed in the past week, all centered around trying to make this an issue, any talk coming from you about how much time anyone spends here is laughable. Maybe if you spent some time readiing policies, guidelines and notability standards, instead of making allegations, you'd be better off. Niteshift36 (talk) 17:50, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

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