Talk:Darby Creek (Pennsylvania)

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Review: May 2, 2015. (Reviewed version).

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Darby Creek (Pennsylvania)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: CookieMonster755 (talk · contribs) 00:47, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Criteria

Good Article Status - Review Criteria

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A good article is—

Well-written:

(a) the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct; and

(b) it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.^[1]

Verifiable with no original research:

(a) it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline;

(b) reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose);^[2] and

(c) it contains no original research.

Broad in its coverage:

(a) it addresses the main aspects of the topic;^[3] and

(b) it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).

Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.

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Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:

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(a) media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content; and

(b) media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.^[6]

Review

Well-written:

Criteria	Notes	Result
(a) (prose)	No typos as far as I can tell. Respects copyright law.	Pass
(b) (MoS)	Follows MoS guidelines, layout is correct.	Pass

Verifiable with no original research:

Criteria	Notes	Result
(a) (references)	This part does not pass due to the concerned reason that one of the sources in the article does not source any information as far as I can tell. Reference 2 in the article (United States Geological Survey, The National Map Viewer, retrieved April 25, 2015) which is cited in "Course", "Tributaries" and "Geography, geology, and climate". However, this reference does not back up the information with the citation to this source. This source only shows a map of the United States. Please back up this information with a reliable source. If I made a mistake or this reference does cite this source but I am missing it, please let me know. Until the concern is addressed, this criteria has failed. The article has passed 2a criteria. See the discussion below.	Pass
(b) (citations to reliable sources)	Citations lead to reliable sources. ~~However, several citations lead to a source which does not cite that information. Please refer above for more information.~~	Pass
(c) (original research)	All research is original.	Pass

Broad in its coverage:

Criteria	Notes	Result
(a) (major aspects)	—	Pass
(b) (focused)	—	Pass

Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.

Notes	Result
Article is neutral.	Pass

Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.

Notes	Result
As far as I can tell, no edit wars. There was some incidental reverts made by accident.	Pass

Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:

Criteria	Notes	Result
(a) (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales)	Free images from the Commons, perfect!	Pass
(b) (appropriate use with suitable captions)	Images use suitable captions.	Pass

Result

Result	Notes
Pass	This article is on hold until criteria 2a can be addresses, resolved and/or fixed. I look forward to fixing the addresses issues to get this article to GA status. It qualifies, just the 2a needs some clarification or fixing. Thank you! CookieMonster755 (talk) 04:16, 2 May 2015 (UTC) This article has passed. See the discussion below. Congratulations! CookieMonster755 (talk) 17:54, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

@CookieMonster755: The National Map does not just show a map of the United States; it's possible to zoom in on any point. Just type Darby Creek into the search box and navigate to Darby Creek. Can you be more specific about what (if any) other references have errors? --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 11:02, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Jakec: I found some more information from the map. I searched for Darby Creek and found it. All the information I found was the address and elevation of Darby Creek (unless I am blind). However, the map does provide where it's located and where the creek runs by. The following paragraph is a piece of the article from the "Source" section, which cites this map. I will be checking off which statements are backed up by this source and what are not. I carefully read the statements and followed the map. All the statements backed up by this reference are clearly visible on the map. Thank you very much Jakec, without your comment I would have never been able to be slower and actually found out that the information is backed up by reference 2. As far as I can tell, everything in the article is properly reference. I will be changing the status from "on hold" to "passed". Congratulations on another job well done! It's officially a GA article! And Jakec, thank you for teaching me a lesson today. I need to be a little more (more like a lot) slower when reviewing GANs. Thanks! CookieMonster755 (talk) 17:52, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Darby Creek begins in a small valley near US Route 30 in Treddyffrin Township, Chester County. Verified
It flows south-southeast for more than a mile before entering Easttown Township and turning east-northeast for several tenths of a mile. Verified
The creek then turns southeast for a few miles, passing through Newton Township, Delaware County and entering Radnor Township, where it receives its first two named tributaries, Thomas Run and Little Darby Creek, from the right and left, respectively. Verified
The creek then turns south-southeast for several tenths of a mile before turning southeast for several more miles. Verified
In this reach, it receives the tributary Miles Run from the left and the tributary Camp Run from the right. Verified
The creek eventually turns east briefly before receiving the tributary Ithan Creek from the left and turning south-southeast for several miles along the border between Marple Township and Haverford Township. Verified
In this reach, the creek flows alongside Interstate 476 and crosses it once. Verified
As it continues downstream alongside the highway, it crosses Pennsylvania Route 3 and receives the tributary Longford Run from the left. Verified
Near Pilgrim Gardens, it turns southeast again and begins to flow along the border between Upper Darby Township and Springfield Township, crossing US Route 1 and receiving the tributaries Colleen Brook and Lewis Run from the left and right, respectively. Verified
Further downstream, the creek's valley becomes much steeper and narrower and it makes several meanders as it passes by Clifton Heights and Landsowne before flowing along the border between Aldan and Yeadon. Verified
The creek then flows south-southeast for a few miles, leaving its valley and passing Darby, Collingdale, Sharon Hill, and Colwyn as it crosses US Route 13. Verified
It then receives the tributary Cobbs Creek from the left. Verified

As far as other references go, the other references do not have errors as far as I can tell. Looks great!

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^ Vandalism reversions, proposals to split or merge content, good faith improvements to the page (such as copy editing), and changes based on reviewers' suggestions do not apply. Nominations for articles that are unstable because of unconstructive editing should be placed on hold.
^ Other media, such as video and sound clips, are also covered by this criterion.
^ The presence of images is not, in itself, a requirement. However, if images (or other media) with acceptable copyright status are appropriate and readily available, then some such images should be provided.

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[1] Compliance with other aspects of the Manual of Style, or the Manual of Style mainpage or subpages of the guides listed, is not required for good articles.

[2] Either parenthetical references or footnotes can be used for in-line citations, but not both in the same article.

[3] This requirement is significantly weaker than the "comprehensiveness" required of featured articles; it allows shorter articles, articles that do not cover every major fact or detail, and overviews of large topics.

[4] Vandalism reversions, proposals to split or merge content, good faith improvements to the page (such as copy editing), and changes based on reviewers' suggestions do not apply. Nominations for articles that are unstable because of unconstructive editing should be placed on hold.

[5] Other media, such as video and sound clips, are also covered by this criterion.

[6] The presence of images is not, in itself, a requirement. However, if images (or other media) with acceptable copyright status are appropriate and readily available, then some such images should be provided.

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