Talk:Dante Alighieri/Archive 2

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Dante is his mononym

I recommend that the mage be edited to say that he's known by his mononym Dante. The article does not explicitly use the term "mononym". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.183.110.20 (talk) 13:01, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

Well, he is actually known as Dante Alighieri, leaving aside earlier variant spellings like "Dante Allighier" (Jacopo Alighieri),"L'autore di questa nobilissima opera fue Dante delli Allighieri di Firenze" (Ottimo), "Dante Alleghieri di Fiorenza" (Lancia), etc. --2003:C9:273A:7A00:B145:EF7A:A0DF:B076 (talk) 22:30, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Antonia Alighieri

Dante Alighieri has a less known sister whise name was Antonia. During hist last period lived in Ravenna, she left Florence to near with Dante with his family. Susequently, she become a Roman Catholic nun under the monastic name of BEATRICE. We don't know exactly the type of link with the Beatrice named in the Divina commedia. Possibly, there exist the article w:it:Antonia Alighieri which still waits to be translated into English. Best regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.223.69.163 (talk) 13:36, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

I have corrected your "noun" to "nun", amica/o—they are different nouns. Errantios (talk) 22:40, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

Florentine or Italian

What defines a culture is always contentious and not clear cut, but since Italy did not exist for 600 years after the birth of Dante, shouldn't it be more correct to define him as Florentine? On the other hand, he left Florence and lived most of his later life around northern Italy. Eccekevin (talk) 04:11, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Nationality is not tied to the existence of a state

Hebrews were Hebrews even without Israel. Curds are Curds without a stare. Or isn't Beethoven German? 79.20.207.69 (talk) 22:55, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Both: the modern Italian nation was created in the 19th century but Italy as a geographical area has been existing since the ancient Roman times. Claiming that Dante was not Italian would be like claiming that present day Italians, Norwegians, Germans, etc., are not European. Pier, 17 September 2021 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.105.243.141 (talk) 12:15, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

This issue has taken several forms. Compare Talk:Immanuel Kant, Archive 6, sections 18 and 62; there is now a consensus that Kant should be referred to as German, partly in recognition that a "German" culture and national consciousness preceded the creation of a state named "Germany" in the nineteenth century. MOS is vague - MOS:CONTEXTBIO. I'd say that for Dante we should go by the fact (as I think it is), however it has come about, that he is universally counted as Italian. A "Florentine" today (I think) is a person from the Italian city of Florence (Firenze), not necessarily thinking of the city's independent history. Errantios (talk) 11:36, 19 December 2022 (UTC)