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A fact from Daniela Solera appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 30 August 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that goalkeeper Daniela Solera had the most touches of any Costa Ricanv player in their opening match of the 2023 World Cup, saving all but two of Spain's 46 shots?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/August. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Daniela Solera.

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Vaticidalprophet (talk) 15:30, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that goalkeeper Daniela Solera had the most touches of any Costa Rican player in their opening match of the 2023 World Cup, saving all but two of Spain's 46 shots?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Geotechnical applications of Lidar
- Comment: Probably not enough room to mention it was her birthday, but it could be added after 'World Cup' to cover all angles. Spain got three goals but one was an own goal from a CR defender, so not a Spain shot.

5x expanded by Kingsif (talk). Self-nominated at 01:05, 24 July 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Daniela Solera; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting: - n

QPQ: Done.

Overall: --evrik ^(talk) 14:08, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Kingsif: Maybe a hook based on this, "She preferred playing with boys, but was forbidden from playing on the school team over fears that they would hurt her; when one of the players was ill, Solera asked to play in his place. Even though she had not trained with them, she did play at school breaks, so the match went well and she continued." --evrik ^(talk) 00:42, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Evrik: Hmm - it is distractingly common that young girls have been stopped from playing with boys for no reason but misinformed sexism, but this seems less frequent in non-Western (world) countries, so in the context of CR it's somewhat interesting. Of course, since the same can be said for other players, I'd rather save that hook fact for a player about which there is little else that can be said. If you don't like the current hook, perhaps something about being very successful in Colombia leading to moves to Europe? Kingsif (talk) 01:30, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kingsif, yes, but this hook is boring. --evrik ^(talk) 03:52, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Evrik: I have to say, I think absolute excellence in her field – and the I've-never-seen-it-before fact of a goalkeeper having more touches than not only some but all outfield players – is more interesting than just saying sexism sucks, perhaps another opinion is needed. Kingsif (talk) 04:13, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A new reviewer to evalute the hook, please. --evrik ^(talk) 14:08, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hook fine, would suggest that the promoter trim the bit about saving shots to emphasise the most touches element, and to get the reader to ask "why?" ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:30, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@AirshipJungleman29: Alt1: ... that Daniela Solera, Costa Rica's goalkeeper, had the most touches of any player on her team in their opening match of the 2023 World Cup? Kingsif (talk) 20:58, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I put a placeholder for this at Template:Did you know/Preparation area 5. --evrik ^(talk) 15:11, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why??????? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 08:22, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not allowed to add it to that prep because of my involvement here. --evrik ^(talk) 14:39, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

And yet you added it anyway. What if every nominator added their hooks to prep as "a placeholder"? You're already the subject of discussion regarding inappropriately moving hooks; I wouldn't suggest you push the boundaries. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:58, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]