Talk:Daksha

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Inclusion of Aditi as parent in infobox

I think that Aditi should be listed as the mother of Daksha, as that is what is stated in the Vedas. It is reliably sourced, and is the oldest version of the myth. In fact, all orthodox schools of Hinduism consider the Vedas to be an authoritative source, and thus it is notable enough to be placed in the infobox.Chariotrider555 (talk) 17:40, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello Chariotrider555,

Can you please quote authentic source regarding your claim? 

According to ancient Hindu texts On the parents of Daksha, he is considered to be Manas-Putra of Lord Brahma, that is, born by Brahma's mind and is not born through natural process of birth i.e. through womb of a mother, so he doesn't have any mother. However, Goddess Saraswati is consort of Lord Brahma, so by that relation she can be called his mother, but not natural mother. On the other hand, Aditi is daughter of Daksha, not his mother. Aditi was married to Sage Kashyap (He is the son of Sage Marichi another mindborn son of Lord Brahma like Daksha) and is considered to be mother of all devtas(Gods). Hope it helps you.

Kswarrior (talk) KLS 18:11, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Yes I can reliably source it.  

"As a group, the Ādityas generally represent the powers that order human society. This function is most evident in the three principal Ādityas, Varuṇa, Mitra, and Aryaman. In addition to these three, however, there are minor deities who are also called Ādityas—Dakṣa, Bhaga, and Aṃśa—and a number of other gods, such as Savitar and Sūrya, who may be called Ādityas when they exercise functions like those of the major Ādityas. The Ādityas are sons of the goddess Aditi, whose name means “offenselessness” or “innocence.” She embodies obedience to the principles of right social behavior that her sons represent. Later, the motherhood of Aditi becomes central to her identity and she becomes a mother to other deities." - Jamison and Brereton (2014)

As you see I am referring to the older, Vedic version of the myth. It is only in later Puranic and epic versions that Aditi becomes mother of all devas, originally she was only a mother of certain deities. In addition, Kashyapa is only mentioned as the husband of Aditi in the Puranas, which were written hundreds and some of them thousands of years after the Vedas. You are referencing the Puranic version of the myth, in which Brahma is the father of Daksha. I am quite open to having both versions being in the infobox, as I had put in my earlier edit which had been reverted, which showed Aditi as his Vedic mother and Brahma and Saraswati as his Puranic parents.

Opposed: there are multiple stories of Daksha and his parentage can differ. At present, most scholars agree that Brahma is his father. Daksha can be son Aditi in Vedas but we can't include each and every info in infobox. Aditi should be mentioned only in the article. .👨🏻‍🎨 💠245CMR💠.•^👥📜 02:33, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

It is mentioned nearly 80 times in the Rigveda: the verse "Daksha sprang from Aditi and Aditi from Daksha" There is a great deal of doubt and confusion about him, which of old the sage Parasara could only account for by saying that "in every age Daksha and the rest are born and are again destroyed."

In the Rigveda it is said that "Daksha sprang from Aditi, and Aditi from Daksha." Upon this marvellous mutual generation Yaska in the Nirukta remarks, "How can this be possible? They may have had the same origin In the Satapatha Brahmana, Daksha is identified with Prajapati, the creator. Rig Veda X.72 says 4. Earth sprang from the Productive Power the regions from the earth were born. Dakṣa was born of Aditi, and Aditi was Dakṣa's Child. 5 For Aditi, O Dakṣa, she who is thy Daughter, was brought forth. After her were the blessed Gods born sharers of immortal life.

Satapata Brahmana 6:1:1:5 says

That same Person became Pragâpati (lord of generation). And that Person which became Pragâpati is this very Agni (fire-altar), who is now (to be) built.

6:1:2:26 says

Now that father (Pragâpati) is (also) the son: inasmuch as he created Agni, thereby he is Agni's father; and inasmuch as Agni restored him, thereby Agni is his (Pragâpati's) father; and inasmuch as he created the gods, thereby he is the father of the gods; and inasmuch as the gods restored him, thereby the gods are his fathers.

6:1:2:27 says

Twofold verily is this,--father and son, Pragâpati and Agni, Agni and Pragâpati, Pragâpati and the gods, the gods and Pragâpati--(for) whosoever knows this.

Either it is Prajapati and AGNI or Daksha and Aditi, the concept is SPIRITUAL but not physical.

So whatever is born from the BRAHMAN will become BRAHMAN and be merged again back into the BRAHMAN

According to the Mahabharata, Daksha sprang from the right thumb of Brahma, and his wife from that deity's left thumb.

I am not quoting only puranic version, but from vedas. Kswarrior (talk) KLS 02:37, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

But, this can be mentioned in the section 'Vedic Literature' instead of Infobox. .👨🏻‍🎨 💠245CMR💠.•^👥📜 02:40, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Or A seperate article 'Daksha (Vedic)' can be created as there are separated articles for most deities with major diff appearing in both the Vedas and Purana (Brahma and Prajapati, Prithvi and Bhūmi, Tvastar and Vishwakarma) .👨🏻‍🎨 💠245CMR💠.•^👥📜 02:52, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Opposed: I am not in favor of changing Infobox, I had provided information regarding status of relationship between Aditi and Daksha, against claim of user to change Infobox. Kswarrior (talk) KLS 02:56, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

References

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An Indian uid 1934384137 2401:4900:3051:43CF:0:6D:B6A6:6B01 (talk) 04:14, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

First sentence unintelligible

"In Hinduism, Daksha (Sanskrit: दक्ष, IAST: Dakṣa, lit. "able, dexterous, or honest one") is one of His iconography depicts him as a man with a stocky body and a handsome face or the head of a goat."

One of what?

-) FloweringOctopus (talk) 17:18, 4 July 2023 (UTC)