Talk:Czechoslovakian Wolfdog/Archive 1

Archive 1

Copyright problems

It appears as if large portions of text have been copied to this article from other places, I'm going to remove two, which were copied from http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/czechoslovakianwolfdog.htm. Fightindaman 23:45, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Copyright problems - solved

The text which you can see on http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/czechoslovakianwolfdog.htm has been also written by me. I'm also author of the main photo there. You can see on the bottom of the page text saying "Thanks to Margo Peron for providing Dog Breed Info with this information. Kennel "z Peronówki". Now I want to submit more detailed version of my article to Wikipedia. Please let me know if it is not enought - should I add any additional information to Czechoslovakian Wolfdog to be able to post my text here....?

I'll send a couple emails and see if everything checks out, if it does then I'll put up a link to them verifying that the text is legitimate. Fightindaman 00:55, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Note

The page originally located at Czechoslovakian Wolfdog/copyright has been moved to Talk:Czechoslovakian Wolfdog/copyright. Khatru2 07:57, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Czechoslovakian is wrong name

Adjective should be Czechoslovak, like:

http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/1960_Constitution_of_Czechoslovakia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.36.29.71 (talk) 15:33, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Appearance

How big (heavy) does this dog typically get? Marmocet (talk) 21:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Accoridng to the UKC standard - about 57 pounds for males, 44 pounds for females. Draggar (talk) 14:16, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Communication

"Czechoslovakian Vlčáks have a much wider range of means of expressing themselves and barking is unnatural for them; they try to communicate with their masters in other ways."

this needs some clarification/examples. Does this mean they howl rather than bark, or use body language or..? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.221.200.61 (talk) 17:07, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

They use body language (primarily) but can also use some quiet vocal communications (grumbling, whining, etc..). Draggar (talk) 14:14, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Photographs

Several photographs of this breed appear on wikimedia, perhaps someone more familiar with the breed can add more photographs here and information. cReep 04:01, 23 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by CReep-cReep (talk • contribs)

I added an image from that page, although I'm not familiar with the breed specifically. – anna 16:58, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

I'm adding a couple of ours. Draggar (talk) 21:39, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Translation

In my research into the Czech language the word "Vlčák" seems to translate into "alsatian" and not "German Shepherd" (that translates to "německý ovčák") - can we get some clarification on this from someone fluent with Czech? Draggar (talk) 21:43, 11 August 2011 (UTC) -It is innacurate: common name for German Shepherd is "ovčák". "vlčák" refers only to Czechoslovakian wolfdog (at least in Moravia)

Jakub  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.197.155.184 (talk) 15:33, 24 October 2011 (UTC) 

Nemecky ovcak (Německý ovčák) = In Czech is official name of German shepherd dog and means literally German shepherd. Vlcak(Vlčák) - pronounce it as vlchaak= wolf dog and in Czech it is a slang word for GSD. That is since GSD resembles by its look a wolf. Not to mistake by "Czechoslovakian or Czech or Slovakian wolf dog" in Czech which is separate breed. This is common mix up . — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlpineK9 (talk • contribs) 15:12, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Images

I think that there are probably too many images here. Generally you only want to put in images that add to the article. Perhaps you can pick two that you like the best and remove the others? Fightindaman 01:00, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

As helpful hints, what is usual for dog-breed articles would be images of dogs with obviously different coat colors (although it looks like that might not apply to ths breed?), or participating in activities (my favorite) so people can see the dog in action, or face-on shots of the head so that people can get an idea of what's going to be looking at them :-), or anatomical details of interest, stuff like that. And captions are more helpful if they say something like "Wolfdog with gray coat; they also come in chartreuse" or "This dog's mask is pale grey and extends to the tip of his nose" or like that-- whether the dog is male or female isn't really of use in looking at most photos. So I definitely like the full-body one in the breed box, and maybe one of the two existing head shots unless there's something usefully different that a caption can point out about them.Elf | Talk

Signed for archive purposes only.  William Harris |talk  07:58, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

"Wolf-dog hybrid" comment

With the reclassification of dogs as a subspecies of wolf, that kinds makes the "wolf-dog hybrid" comment inaccurate. I think a more accurate wording would be "wolfdog breed". Also, the plan was to "enhance" the German Shepherd for the tasks that were required. Draggar (talk) 20:32, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Move out-of-sequence post

to who ever is making changes to this page please stop! We have not entered into any edit wars, every day someone has changed our links and sources and removed our text we have simply added back our details and links. The links to this site are in our forum and we guide people here. they then come back to us and state the links and information have been removed and another body named vlcak.co.uk have removed our details and placed theirs in there is no war however the people who keep making changes are in relation to vlcak.co.uk and have nothing to do with our GB club we understand this is a free site but it is unfair that representatives of the vlcak.co.uk and wolfdog.org feel the need to do this every day we find our links gone and changes made. we simple add ours back to the list and then the next day its gone or within the hour ? we may have to remove our links directing members to this page as the actions of representatives of vlcak.co.uk and wolfdog.org are behaving in this manner. can we protect this page? or should we just state to our members that the page can not be accredited and remove our links to your site? Shame on these people for using their behaviour to discredit our group. Can whom ever is making changes stop this! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Csvgb (talk • contribs) 10:09, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

I have moved your out-of-sequence post; when not responding to a previous topic, use 'New section', which will correctly place it at the bottom. This is not your page; see Wikipedia:Ownership of articles. Your site was not cited as the reference when building it, and is unacceptable as a bare url reference without identifying which material it is supporting, see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners. If no references are cited, the page may be challenged and deleted. If a website is used as a reference, it should then be removed from External links. I have corrected the display of the website title; this is the English language Wikipedia; from the Wikipedia:Manual of Style: 'Plain English works best: avoid ambiguity, jargon, and vague or unnecessarily complex wording.' Dru of Id (talk) 12:34, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Thankyou for the correction, clear information and also leaving the weblink in place today! we shall see how long this lasts and if it continues we will ofcourse ask for the whole page to be removed as advised via the links you have provide It is shameful that people use this portal to continue a removal of important links giving all readers a chance to make their own decisions.[user:csvgb] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Csvgb (talk • contribs) 14:59, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Hello Excirial I dont know where to contact you as you state on my talk to contact you if they make changes again and bingo today the lady from bulgaria has changed our link to hers it is rediculous that she persists and although we agree we have each time she makes the changes changed it back this time we have waited for you to take action. If she has had the warning then since her warning she has done this twice and still no ban please can we keep our link on czechoslovakian wolfdog page we find it so time consuming coming back every day to see her undo is there anything you can do? again I am so sorry to write here I didnt know what else to do to ask for help and we have refrained from doing the undo ourself because its becoming cat and mouse games (User talk:csvgb talk)

Czechoslovakian Vlciak Club of Great Britain this link again was removed 15/03/2013 by the same people who were warned not to do this by the moderator here it is another cat and mouse game and unfair please stop this foolish and childish game and vlcak.co.uk you should be ashamed of yourselves you are a link to wolfdog.org and dont even have an established club in the UK leave us to work for the benefit of the breed there is room in this world for everyone! (User talk:csvgb talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Csvgb (talk • contribs) 16:27, 22 May 2013 (UTC)