Talk:Cumul des mandats

cumul in French government

I added a section about the practice of cumul in French government, as this is a part of French politics where things are (slowly) moving. I (of course) tried to make it as NPOV as possible (I have a bias, being a member of the Socialist Party (France)). Also note that mentioning Bérégovoy (now dead for 14 years) is a bit of stale news, while Ségolène Royal will in a matter of days have to be removed (she's not a candidate for the upcoming general elections).

The headline in the Main Page is a bit POV though: it quotes Ségolène but not the current President Sarkozy, who has a very rich history of cumul (mayor of Neuilly, head of Hauts-de-Seine, minister or deputy). Perhaps it could be better formulated as: "did you know that both leading candidates in the 2007 presidential elections, Ségolène Royal and Nicolas Sarkozy, practiced the cumul des mandats...". (The subject is still hot as, as I said, there's an upcoming general election on Sunday, and both of them are leading their parties). Jérôme Plût 07:20, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, I think the content about Royal and Bérégovoy should still be able to remain in the article as instances of prominent politicians that more causal observers may know. I didn't mean it as a POV thing, since my personal beliefs would be more towards yours, just only as in she happened to be the one I mentioned in the article so she was included, if anything more to balance with the conservative Chirac. matt91486 23:59, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

"Multiple mandates in France"

Please!

I ended up by chance on this page after having read an article in Le Monde about the never-ending controversy regarding multiple mandates (cumul des mandats) in France.

Really, the title is terrible. It should be changed to "Multiple mandates in France".

"Multiple mandates" (and much less frequently "plural mandates) is how the English-language press always call that increasingly weird French practice. Ah les Français!--Lubiesque (talk) 15:12, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

I agree. Could we change the title with a redirection from "cumul des mandats" ? LeBoétien 07:08, 3 August 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by LeBoétien (talk • contribs)

I have no real problem with this as long as there is a redirect. When I started the article however long ago, I was simply basing it off my texts from my studies of French politics, not the terminology necessarily used most often in regular press coverage. matt91486 (talk) 05:59, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Neutrality

This section is extremely biased:

The purpose of holding multiple offices are multiple. Holding a seat in the Senate, National Assembly, or European Parliament gives local mayors a valuable method of tapping funds to develop their home cities and regions.[4] It also can give many opportunities to curry favor with other important officials, with opportunities at each level.[5]Salaries for positions can be combined to a point as well, for greater wage compensation as an additional reward for building a political safety net.[5] For politicians with national ambitions, retaining a position in a local town can give them a down-to-earth aura that can appeal to voters. These advantages have made politicians very wary of reducing the practice of the cumul with legislation despite other moves to end perceptions of favoritism and corruption among politicians.[6]

 Liam987(talk) 00:01, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

I haven't worked on this article in literally years, but I would say that this paragraph is A. fairly well sourced, and B. regularly consistent with Clientelism, and not hugely controversial from a political science perspective. Perhaps the tone could be neutered somewhat or a positive argument in favor of it could be added. matt91486 (talk) 04:53, 17 March 2015 (UTC)