Talk:Cultural impact of Britney Spears
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Article is officially flagged for being written from a fan's point of view and inaccurately cited
[edit]Guys, PLEASE be careful!! This article is at high risk right now. @LoverReps, if you care about this page, I need to you to stop adding so much content. A lot of it is why we are dealing with this now. We have to keep it neutral. Follow the rules!!
Establishing Rules
[edit]1.) Please do not add random celebrities to Britney's list of artists she has influenced with citations containing irrelevant quotes. Loving someone or their music is not inspiration. Those names do not belong here. 2.) Do not use fan-made articles with fake paraphrases as sources. 3.) Try to stay away from third party observations. Journalists often point out an artist's performance, music or fashion reminds them of another artist for clickbait when it's not even acknowledged by the artists themselves at all. It's merely an opinion by a third party and therefore not credible. This is causing a lot of issues right now!! So only use direct quotes of artists citing Britney as an influence or inspiration. 4.) Be careful how you word things, especially when you present sources. Keep it neutral. TheSourceVerifier (talk) 12:05, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
Issues within page.
[edit]Hi — Other people have made pages on artists cultural impacts and it’s accurate. It may be from a fan point for others but nothing is argumentative here or from a POV.
I am not trying to cause a stir LoverReps (talk) 15:46, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- I checked the additions you've made on this page. Unfortunately, most of the citations you've used are unrelated to inspiration or influence. Consequently, the list is very deceptive and inaccurate. A lot of the quotes you've used are merely artists stating that they love Britney, defending her or explaining how it was like working with her. None of those are related to Britney influencing them. And then there are other citations used as sources that are 1.) fanmade articles with fake paraphrasing, 2.) fanmade YouTube accounts with unrelated content or 3.) third party observation/interpretations by journalists instead of the artist's own words, which are all questionable as well. I left all those names and citations in there for now with a failed verification tag in case you want to understand the reasoning but I will have to delete the names in question after a couple of days. For future reference, please do not add content with false/unrelated quotes. Thank you. TheSourceVerifier (talk) 11:35, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- Are you slow?
- When musical artists talk about other artists "they love", it's usually in the context of what influences them. They don't have to use the words you want them to use. Get off your high horse. 2003:E7:1746:B700:D48A:8FC9:8531:A70F (talk) 23:32, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- You sound very pressed so I'm not going to entertain your idea too much. But when artists say they love someone's music, it is most certainly not in the context of what influences them, unless they say so. It is literally unrelated to the subject matter. It's people like you that corrupt these articles and cause them to get deleted. TheSourceVerifier (talk) 01:05, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
Missing references
[edit]@LoverReps: Your edits here added some references — {{sfn|Hurst|2003|p=14}}, {{sfn|Hurst|2003|p=19}}
— that do not point to citations. Can these errors be fixed? —GoldRingChip 12:51, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- they are stated on her page on awards and have been there for a long time. they were accepted them and still are now. LoverReps (talk) 12:52, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- @LoverReps: Please note that these shorthands,
{{sfn|Hurst|2003|p=14}}, {{sfn|Hurst|2003|p=19}}
create coding errors, namely that when you click on them there is no citation. Where is the Hurst citation? Can you please fix this error? —GoldRingChip 13:11, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- @LoverReps: Please note that these shorthands,
Is there a template or guideline for "Cultural impact of" articles?
[edit]Hi everyone. I want to contribute to this article as well, but knowing how everything is often deemed as "fan perspective" or otherwise will be contested for its relevance/verifiability, I think it's important to establish which are the sections or topics that need to be covered in here to start looking for reliable sources and give the article a better structure.
Looking at other similar articles, I see the there are some common sections but then they also include some different ones. Even the order is different.
For example, Cultural impact of Taylor Swift and Cultural impact of Beyoncé have similar topics like Musicianship and Fame and Stardom but then they differ on many others. Then the Cultural impact of Shakira seems to focus more on the musical aspect, same as Cultural impact of Madonna, though the latter also gives a great focus to her image and fashion. And there are several more that can be seen here: Category:Cultural impact by musician
So my question is which one of these is the one we can use as a reference or guideline so people don't come here questioning the importance or relevance of this article? Or which are the sections/topics that we need to start writing for the particular case of Britney Spears.