Talk:Cucurbita/GA1

Post-GA development

How about this for the table? It's meant as a proof of concept so feel free to tweak it - I'm sure better images could be found. mgiganteus1 (talk) 19:32, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Common name	Botanical name	Description
Acorn	C. pepo var. turbinata	winter squash, both a shrubby and creeping plant, obovoid or conical shape, pointed at the apex and with longitudinal grooves, ex: Acorn squash
Cocozzelle	C. pepo var. Ionga	summer squash, long round slender fruit that is slightly bulbous at the apex, similar to fastigata, ex: Cocozelle von tripolis
Crookneck	C. pepo var. torticollia	summer squash, shrubby plant, with yellow, golden, or white fruit which is curved at the ends and generally has a verrucose (wart-covered) rind, ex: Yellow crookneck squash
Pumpkin	C. pepo var. pepo	winter squash, creeping plant, round or oval shape and round or flat on the ends, ex: Pumpkin; includes C. pepo subsp. pepo var. styriaca, used for Styrian pumpkin seed oil^[1]
Scallop	C. pepo var. clypeata; called C. melopepo by Linnaeus)^[2]	summer squash, prefers half-shrubby habitat, flat or slightly discoidal shape, with undulations or equatorial edges, ex: Pattypan squash
Straightneck	C. pepo var. recticollis	summer squash, shrubby plant, with yellow or golden fruit and verrucose rind, similar to var. torticollia, ex: Yellow summer squash
Vegetable marrow	C. pepo var. fastigata	summer and winter squashes, creeper traits and a semi-shrub, cream to dark green color, short round fruit with a slightly broad apex, ex: Spaghetti squash (a winter variety)
Zucchini	C. pepo var. cylindrica	summer squash, presently the most common group of cultivars, origin is recent (19th century), semi-shrubby, cylindrical fruit with a mostly consistent diameter, similar to fastigata, ex: Zucchini
Ornamental gourds	C. pepo var. ovifera	non-edible,^[3] field pumpkins closely related to C. texana, vine habitat, thin stems, small leaves, three sub-groups: C. pepo var. ovifera (egg-shaped, pear-shaped), C. pepo var. aurantia (orange color), and C. pepo var. verrucosa (round warty gourds), ornamental gourds found in Texas and called var. texana and ornamental gourds found outside of Texas (Illinois, Missouri, Arkansas, Oklahoma, and Louisiana) are called var. ozarkana.^[4]

Very nice, concept proven. I made the upright pumpkin image smaller so its area is similar to the other images'.Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:14, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I like it to. I centered the pumpkin. Put it in the article. Added footnotes. Added more photos. HalfGig (talk) 23:42, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Chiswick Chap (talk · contribs) 14:40, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I will be pleased to review this article. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:40, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GA Table

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	Readability excellent. Copyright - passes spotchecks. Spelling: ok. Grammar: ok.
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.	Lead: ~~maybe move refs into body of article;~~ok; weasel: ~~maybe remove 'very';~~ok; fiction: n/a; lists: maybe use tables, see below. Probably none of these are showstoppers.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.	ok
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).	ok.
	2c. it contains no original research.	No sign of it.
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.	Informative article.
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).	Clear and well-focused, generally easy to read.
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.	No sign of bias.
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.	No sign of edit-warring.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.	Images from Commons
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.	ok
	7. Overall assessment.	An interesting, well-written and enjoyable article and a worthy GA. It may require care with lists and medical claims, and a separate section on constituents, for progress to FA.

Comments

The image from Les Grandes Heures d'Anne de Bretagne should be so named, with dates. BTW not sure that a 'book of hours' is exactly a 'prayer book' as it contains a mix of materials including psalms; perhaps 'devotional book' would be better?
- Done. HalfGig (talk) 22:40, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
There are refs in the lead (where they're generally not needed); these might be better in 'History and domestication' where it's not clear which ref applies to the first two sentences - perhaps refs 1,2,3 are relevant there?
- Done. HalfGig (talk) 22:40, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps best to avoid intensifiers like 'very', as in 'very important source of human food'.
- Cut all "very" instances.HalfGig (talk) 22:40, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I guess the list of 'Species' is adequately cited with the 3 refs in the leading sentence. It's perhaps less clear in 'Habitat and distribution' which ref applies to which variety/cultivar as there are four refs in the leading sentence and more in the list. Perhaps a table layout would make it clearer, and the column layout could be used to show small images alongside the varieties, as well as descriptions and references?
- I'll need help with tables.HalfGig (talk) 22:40, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
'leaves alternately helically arranged on the stem'. Is that different from 'alternate'? Not totally clear - maybe provide a brief gloss or wikilink.
- Cut "helically". HalfGig (talk) 22:55, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
'Other specimens can weigh over 300 kg...' - "Other" means "cultivated"?
- Changed. HalfGig (talk) 22:55, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
'These studies also reported the genus had "about 27" total species.' Both studies provided the same quote?
- I reworded this. HalfGig (talk) 22:55, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
'Cucurbitin is found in Cucurbita seeds.' Perhaps mention what it is used for; and is it bitter and toxic like Cucurbitacin or what?
- Will be fixed in 5-10 minutes. HalfGig (talk) 23:07, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
treating diabetes - medical claims need to be handled very carefully. Which type of diabetes? Perhaps this claim should be supported by a quotation in the relevant citation (|quote="..."). Ref 25 does not mention diabetes so perhaps the tag needs to be moved earlier in the sentence.
- in this ref, it says "reduce blood sugar", page 390, article changed. HalfGig (talk) 23:07, 20 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In this article the statement in the first sentence of the first paragraph of the description states that members of this genus "[require] adequate water." That statement isn't very useful: all plants "require adequate water." Martel DuVigneaud (talk) 07:47, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

done. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 14:47, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

^ Fürnkranz, Michael; Lukesch, Birgit; Müller, Henry; Huss, Herbert; Grube, Martin; Berg, Gabriele (2012). "Microbial Diversity Inside Pumpkins: Microhabitat-Specific Communities Display a High Antagonistic Potential Against Phytopathogens". Microbial Ecology. 63 (2). Springer: 418–428. doi:10.2307/41412429. JSTOR 41412429.
^ Cite error: The named reference deckerwalters was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
^ Cite error: The named reference decker was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
^ "Free-living Cucurbita pepo in the United States Viral Resistance, Gene Flow, and Risk Assessment". Texas A&M Bioinformatics Working Group. Retrieved September 8, 2013.

[fürnkranz-1] Fürnkranz, Michael; Lukesch, Birgit; Müller, Henry; Huss, Herbert; Grube, Martin; Berg, Gabriele (2012). "Microbial Diversity Inside Pumpkins: Microhabitat-Specific Communities Display a High Antagonistic Potential Against Phytopathogens". Microbial Ecology. 63 (2). Springer: 418–428. doi:10.2307/41412429. JSTOR 41412429.

[deckerwalters-2] Cite error: The named reference deckerwalters was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

[decker-3] Cite error: The named reference decker was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

[tamu-4] "Free-living Cucurbita pepo in the United States Viral Resistance, Gene Flow, and Risk Assessment". Texas A&M Bioinformatics Working Group. Retrieved September 8, 2013.

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