Talk:Crown (heraldry)

Poland and Croatia

I've seen the crowns all all European Catholic countries...except Poland. Poland should be added since it was a major partner in the Europe of kings. Also, Croatia shouldn't be forgotten. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.208.114.219 (talk) 09:16, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

German Prince

Sorry, but a German Prince is (was) not similar to the rank of a marchess. There were two types of German princes - the sovereign prince (like The Prince of Schaumburg-Lippe) and the titular prince (like Prince Bismarck). The equivalent to the british marques was the markgrave (like the markgrave of Baden) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.88.117.149 (talk) 07:05, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The best name

Heraldic crown might not be the best name for this article so I hope someone has a better suggestion. I'm thinking Crown (heraldry) is one option at least. Inge 13:47, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Silly question: What's the best name? The counter-question is: can there be any? I think the title you chose tells one exactly what one is up to. It's about crowns in heraldry and not about physical ones to put on the head. But if I should make a suggestion I'd say: "Crowns in Heraldry". Whether that suggestions is really better then the one you suggest, I don't know. But speaking of it, in case you want to put some illustrations in it, here are two blasons I made. Cheers Spanish Inquisition 16:11, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Old Ducal Hat

What's the deal with it? Does anyone have any more information about it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.92.143.23 (talk) 05:27, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't a coronet, but a cap of maintenance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.95.188.31 (talk) 15:35, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Origin of crowns?

Given that crowns are ubiquitous in the history of Europe (at least) does anybody know their origin? Was it in Ancient Rome? I think this article should address this issue. 79.97.64.240 (talk) 23:27, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As crowns are older than heraldry, their origin is outside the scope of a heraldry article; see instead Crown (headgear)#History. —Tamfang (talk) 22:52, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. That's exactly what I was looking for. 79.97.64.240 (talk) 14:42, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Heraldic crowns?

The crowns in the article for the King and Queen of Norway are not the crowns actually used in the Norwegian Royal Coat of Arms. They are not Crown (heraldry) but stylized versions of the real crowns used i. a. at the last Norwegian coronation in 1906.Hans Cappelen (talk) 16:25, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Image gallery

As of this edit, easily 3/4 of this article's content is an extremely extensive non-prose gallery of images. Deleting 3/4 of an article's content is not a decision I make lightly, but WP:NOTGALLERY, which is part of our content policy, reiterates that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a repository of links, images, or media files. There is really no utility in duplicating within this article media content which can be found on Wikimedia Commons without encyclopedic prose. Wilhelm Meis (☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 03:13, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Doge of Venice/Genoa

The crown/hat, which is refered to as Doge of Genoa in the article, is described as Ducal Crown of the Doge of Venice on it's Wikimedia page. Also it's depicted on the coat of arms of the Republic of Venice. --Mielas (talk) 17:31, 28 September 2019 (UTC) [reply]

Danish crowns

The coronet for marquesses doesn't match the ones used by the only two marquesses ever created by Danish kings.

The ducal crown also seems weird in a Danish context. Dukes are extremely rare in a Danish context outside of the royal family. What is the source for the coronet? Dukes are not to be found in this 1746 chart.

The chart also mentions a coronet for the Gyldenløve family. Shouldn't this be included in the article as well? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Regicollis (talk • contribs) 08:59, 14 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Crown_(heraldry)#Low_Countries

Is the Heraldic Coronets of Baron and Count (alternative) the wrong way round? FranzSebastianvH (talk) 23:23, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

As with any Wikipedia article, additions to this article, including pictorial representations, should be properly referenced. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 12:16, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Add. info

[from talk to Jessicapierce]

ad 1) Skanderbeg was never king, his titel was ‘Lord of Albania’, this was used by himself. The Skanderbeg Helmet isn’t crown of king, just a symbol of power/lordship.

ad 2) Ukraine was never kingdom, ukraine area hadn’t got any king and hadn’t got king’s crown. Just Kingdom of Galicia–Volhynia was few time with crown of Kingdom of Ruthenia.

This distinctness’ is fact, isn’t nonconstructive thing! 2A0A:F640:1603:864B:E153:D6A4:A800:4C60 (talk) 11:24, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Add. info more

[…continue: also to Jessicapierce]

>>Also special type of crown on Coat of arms of Hungary is The Holy Crown of Hungary, who (like a person!) symbolized the King's authority over the Lands of the Hungarian Crown (the Carpathian Basin), and it was a key mark of Legitimacy, halo signifying the wearer's divine right to rule (Divine right of kings). In addition, after St Stephen I (Stephen I of Hungary) held up the crown before his death (in the year 1038) to consecrate it and his kingdom to the Virgin Mary, who was depicted not only as “patrona” (patron saint) of the Kingdom of Hungary, but also as “regina” (queen). This consecration was supposed to empower the crown with divine force to help the future kings of Hungary under the "Doctrine of the Holy Crown". Under this doctrine, the crown itself is a legal person identical to the state of Hungary. It is superior to the ruling monarch, who rules "in the name of the crown". This unique crown is used in heraldry too.<<

This is not an nonsense text, this is historical fact! (is sourced data, real-history and state-law with basicly knowledge)

Pls. take the sourced wiki-pics (number/id) of Coat of Arms of Hungariy. Thx! 2A0A:F640:1603:864B:E153:D6A4:A800:4C60 (talk) 03:27, 15 December 2024 (UTC) 2A0A:F640:1603:864B:E153:D6A4:A800:4C60 (talk) 11:28, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

+ source:

Péter Révay, a Crown Guard, expounded this doctrine in his works Commentarius De Sacra Regni Hungariae Corona (Explanation of the Holy Crown of the Kingdom of Hungary, Augsburg 1613) and De monarchia et Sacra Corona Regni Hungariae (On the Monarchy and Holy Crown of Hungary, Frankfurt 1659)

2001:4C4C:1AE8:8D00:5DD8:8F3C:ABB9:F52B (talk) 03:28, 15 December 2024 (UTC) 2A0A:F640:1603:864B:E153:D6A4:A800:4C60 (talk) 11:32, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]