Talk:Crotophaginae

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Disputed

According to all recent data I have seen, if distinct they would also include the Neomorphinae. These though might not be separable from Crotophagidae/-inae: the latter are morphologically similar to Cuculidae sensu stricto but quite unequivocally as borne out by the DNA sequence data they are part of the crotophagif lineage of Cuculiformes.

However, the sole "good" justification for a distinct Crotophaginae is DNA-DNA sequence data, which is phenetic and not reliable for such basal lineages (within Cuculidae sensu lato). To be on the safe side, a Cuculidae split would need to be 4-way (also Centropodidae and Couidae). Circumscribing the Cuculidae sensu lato is probably the best solution ATM. Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 01:48, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Name derivation

Crotophaginae seems to refer to crotolus (rattle) and -phag (eat). If anyone has a reliable source at hand explaining how the genus, family and subfamily got their names, a short nomenclature section might be appropriate.--Quisqualis (talk) 03:13, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]