Talk:Cronaca fiorentina di Marchionne di Coppo Stefani

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Did you know... that in his Florentine Chronicle, Baldassarre Bonaiuti, tells how during the Black Death of 1348 sick people in Florence were abandoned by their families?

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The first sentence begins: "The Cronaca Fiorentina (Chronicle of Florence) written by Baldassarre Bonaiuti (an illiterate)...". But that makes no sense: how can an illiterate write? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.145.71.49 (talk) 14:46, 16 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Changed wording to (not formally educated in reading or writing).--Doug Coldwell ^talk 15:59, 16 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Account of the Florentine outbreak of the black death given overdue prominence?

The article opens with:

The Cronaca fiorentina di Marchionne di Coppo Stefani (English: Florentine Chronicle of Marchionne di Coppo Stefani) written by Baldassarre Bonaiuti is considered today as one of the best works written on the Black Death in Florence in the year 1348.^{[a 1]}

^ Atti del Congresso internazionale di scienze storiche , Tipografia della R. Accademia dei Lincei (Rome, 1906), Volumes 3–4, p. xlix

But the account of this visitation is found in rubrica 634, which accounts for less than three of the 433 pages which make up the text of the Cronica in Rodolico’s edition. (This is not surprising as the text covers a period which extends from the creation of the world up to 1385.) The source cited is actually a presentation given by Rodolico himself in April 1903. Setting aside the point that he might have a certain bias in favour of his author, it is hard to see how this can be used as evidence for how the text is regarded today: furthermore there is no reference that I can see in Rodolic’s presentation to Stefani’s account of that outbreak of the plague. Therefore I will remove the citation. But do of course restore it if I have got the wrong end of the stick – I often do grab that one.

I wonder if the lede should be rewritten, concentrating, perhaps, on how Stefani’s text differs in focus, style and intent from Villani’s? The DBI article could be used as a source for that I think. Ian Spackman (talk) 11:50, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestive wording you think would be appropriate?--Doug Coldwell ^talk 14:59, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I support the kind of rewriting Ian Spackman has in mind, but may I suggest we leave it to him? I have recycled the Atti del Congresso internazionale di scienze storiche citation in a new section on 'Editions'. Incidentally, as you may have noticed I recently started a page for Niccolò Rodolico, which drew my attention to the fact that he was a student of Giosuè Carducci, who was himself active in just this area. "Only connect", as someone said. Moonraker (talk) 11:59, 7 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] Atti del Congresso internazionale di scienze storiche , Tipografia della R. Accademia dei Lincei (Rome, 1906), Volumes 3–4, p. xlix

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