Talk:Creaky-voiced glottal approximant

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Should be a trill

I wonder why this is treated as fricative (breathy voiced is) and not as Trill since it is clearly produced when both sides of the glottis are vibrating — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.55.82.87 (talk) 16:23, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Phonation should be worded better

Under "Phonation:" there is no explanation of what creaky voice is. It says it is in the template but I can't find it. LlwydCy (talk) 03:49, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification

Thinking it good, seems like contradictory that glottal aproximant may be creaky voiced, It's supposed a glotal consonant is articulated purely with the glottis or parts of, but in contrast with Glottal aspirated and breathy fricatives (h ɦ) they are articulated by semi free airflow, Which makes me doubt whether that "glottal approximant" could be a truly aproximant, firstly because its phonation is creaky, means there's a big closure in airflow, but, a big closure in airflow doesn't apply to aproximants, this feature must apply only for obstruyents, and I know an aproximant may be creaky, but only for aproximants that aren't articulated by the glottis, because if place of articulation is on glottis, it's senseless can be aproximant. And the representation of the consonant isn't accurate to an aproximant, "ʔ̰" means glotal stop with creaky fonation, but glotal stop already is a airflow closure, can't be creaky because already stops airflow. So I think truly glottal aproximants are (h and ɦ), due they have most open glottal settings, Breathy and Aspirated are definitely very open phonations, so, The consonant referred to in the article is probably a flap or truly fricative consonant, and the audio is heard like one also, not like "aproximant" And a creaky phonation would make more sense, since a fricative obstructs more than an occlusive, or even a flap as well. [h̰˕] or [ʔ̞̆] MAURITANIOVE (talk) 08:45, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]