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Origin of Banner County

The origin of the title "Banner" County is also said to have come from Lord Clare's Dragoons' banner. can anyone expand on this adn clarify things? I seem to remember reading somewhere that the banner was returned to the county after his death and eneded up in Galway? Ciaranc 13:40, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

googled this::"At Ramillies, the Clare regiment captured a banner from the opposing English forces, the only French unit to do so that day. This captured banner was presented to the Benedictine nuns in Ypres and was subsequently brought back to Ireland by nuns when they were forced to evacuate their convent due to the ravages of the First World War. They established themselves at Kylemore Abbey, County Galway, where the original banner presented by the Claremen is now kept. The capture of this banner by the Clare Dragoons is said to have given rise to the term “the Banner County”."Ciaranc 13:57, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

The centre of traditional Irish music?

The following sentence seemed to violate the nPOV requirement:

County Clare contains The Burren, a unique karst landscape area of limestone hills and fields, Bunratty Castle, and is considered to be the centre of traditional Irish music today.

Views would presumably differ on where the center of Irish music might lie, if anywhere. I've changed "the centre" to "a major centre", but the "is considered to be" part still bugs me a bit. Who considers it to be so? Can anyone think of a way of conveying the thought without using this phrase? Eloil

Christy Moore seems to think so, "Flutes and fiddles everywhere. If it's music you want, You should go to Clare."

Doolin, in County Clare, and specifically O'Connor's Pub on Fisher Street is regarded as "The Home of Irish Folk Music". That's what the sign says outside the door. I think it is regarded that the tradition of people playing trad. irish folk songs in pubs started here. MeanStreets ("...Chorizo..." 15:23, 30 March 2007 (UTC))

The tradition of irish folk songs in pubs started in that particular pub? I'm skeptical. So people sang songs in other places before that, but it never occurred to anyone to do it in a pub?--Eloil 12:46, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
The Russell Brothers in the 1960s played here. Many books and websites refer to Doolin as the "...capital of Irish Folk" or the "... birthplace of modern folk". In Ireland "local" music would be played in pubs across the counties. As far as I am aware O'Connor's became a place people would travel to play and thus the folk "movement" in Ireland was born. Folk Music became less county dependant and a new hybrid/more modern style was born. Obv. this needs references! But I spent 8 weeks in Doolin in 2005 and this is what *drunk* Irish musicians and people told me! MeanStreets "...Chorizo..." 14:36, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
As a Clareman, I may be biased, but I do agree that Clare is almost universally regarded as the home of Irish music. I think, though, that something like "is one of the leading heartlands of Irish music today" would satisfy the NPOV issue. On the question of music in pubs, up until the 1960's and 1970's, it wasn't the done thing - if you wanted to drink, you went to the pub, if you wanted to dance or listen to music, you went to a ceilidh - typically held in a community hall, someone's house or, in fine weather, at a local crossroads. As for which pub was the first - I honestly wouldn't have a clue... Gabhala 21:09, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Earnest Shackleton birthplace?

A slight annomoly; according to Wikipedia's Shackleton page he born at

"Kilkea House, County Kildare, Ireland"

and not County Clare. Which is it?

I thought Shackleton was from Kerry.

Also does John Holland get no love?

Spanish Armada

I'm looking for non-copyright-vio photos of the Cliffs of Moher, Loop Head, Liscannor Bay, and Shannon Estuary to illustrate Spanish Armada in Ireland. Any help? Thanks.--shtove 00:11, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Irish Coffee

I was under the impression that Irish Coffee was invented at the Seaplane Terminal at Foynes in Limerick, not at Shannon. Gabhala 22:14, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

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Poulnabrone

This is commonly mistranslated as "the hole of sorrows," which in Irish would make it (theoretically) "poll na mbrón". In fact the name is "poll na brón," with "brón" being an archaic genitive form of "bró" - a quern or millstone. I have altered the explanation accordingly.

Colin Ryan (talk) 00:21, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Technical problem

I've tidied up the construction of a sentence in the Religion section and for some reason the image showing the shield of Killaloe Diocese has moved into the next section. Can anyone move it back please? Otherwise revert to before my changes.Spathaky (talk) 20:48, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

I think there's always been a problem with how MediaWiki handles images if there are several of them and/or the corresponding text doesn't take up much room. Actually, perhaps the solution here is just to drop the shield as I think it doesn't significantly enhance the article. If no one objects I'll remove it myself in the next few days.--A bit iffy (talk) 22:27, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

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