Talk:Corinthian Colleges
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Accreditation
[edit]The accreditation section needs some revising. The Southern Association of Colleges and Schools, a regional accreditor, used to have a policy requiring its member schools to deny credit transfer from nationally accredited schools. However, in 1997 the United States Department of Justice threatened the accreditor if it did not cease and desist this practice based solely on accreditation rather than on the quality of the credits. Since then, the Council on Higher Education Accreditation, various states, and regional accreditors have specifically admonished regionally accredited schools against denying transfer credit based on the type of accreditation held by the transferring institution. Myeditor (talk) 20:37, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
That accreditation information is not really specific to this school but to accreditation in general and I suggest maybe moving it to a page about accreditation and linking to it? Warpdesign (talk) 22:01, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
That's a very dated article, and I suggest moving it to the article on accreditation AND finding more current information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.132.140.205 (talk) 01:17, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
- Their "university diplomas" are not accredited anywhere in Europe. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:45:4930:EB52:218D:FCCE:3EDE:7914 (talk) 12:55, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
Transfer of credits is usually left to the discretion of colleges and departments, with a history of various discriminations, except where preexisting agreements or laws apply. Top rated students from smaller colleges or innovative programs generally get credits transferred if courses correspond to catalog entries in the receiving college. Hence there is a voluntary national standard for course numbers and descriptions. Other students have difficulties depending on what type of credits they have. I agree that this topic probably should go in an article about accrediting. There is a continuing debate in education about what is legitimate and what is not, related to questions of how much college should cost and how it should be financed. The topic is contentious and will be difficult to present factually and impartially. Astrojed (talk) 23:51, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
Accredited diplomas are generally not recognized in Europe where government agencies do the approval and inspection of colleges. In USA the issue is addressed by most states passing laws to automatically approve degrees that are accredited by recognized agencies. It is the state approval that is accepted in Europe. There is a long story about legal limits in different countries. Astrojed (talk) 23:51, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
Rhodes
[edit]Can someone tell me why there is a redirect fm Rhodes Colleges? Was CCi once called Rhodes, or was one or more of the subsidiary schools? I went thru rather quickly, but i don't think i missed it. Ragityman (talk) 11:42, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Lead is huge
[edit]Lots of information about Corinthian college has recently been added to the lead that doesn't reflect the content fo the article because it has ONLY been added to the lead. People adding this content should consider putting it in, or making, the appropriate section of the article. SPACKlick (talk) 14:21, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
Past or present?
[edit]The lede begins in the past tense, as if CCi were defunct, but switches to the present tense. The company seems still to be in operation, so some knowledgeable editor should correct this. J. D. Crutchfield | Talk 17:47, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
- This is still true 3 years later. The summary looks like 2017, but the later paragraphs say "as of 2013, they are still waiting..."--Mrcolj (talk) 20:32, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
Article Is Missing The Part About How Closure Has Impacted Enrolled Students
[edit]There are specific rules in state laws and other federal regulations of accrediting agencies about how the student body is to be served during closures of educational institutions. Generally the closing institutions are phased out over a period of years, or a contract is made to transfer the obligations of the institutions to some other educational organization. In the history section there appears to be a negotiated controlled partial shut down, and a transfer of remaining ownership to ECMC with forgiveness of student loans after a period of years. While these actions are in the expected direction, they don't seem to address the legal rights of students under learning contracts that are commonly written for enrolled students.
Bankruptcy doesn't necessarily close an educational institution immediately, although it can be closed legally under court supervision. Operation usually continues for a while under receivership in chapter 7 bankruptcy or under the old management in chapter 11 bankruptcy if they agree to stay on the job and have intent to reorganize the finances. The article seems to say the colleges had 116 campuses in two countries with total 77,584 students, 6000 faculty, and 9,200 other employees in an over extended business model that failed catastrophically under legal actions and allegations of bad management policies.
Conserving of Student Records is in a protected category that is usually handled first before any other action is taken. The page leaves an impression that a panic interrupted the orderly closure, and legal obligations to students were not met by government agencies or the colleges. Was this what the writers intended to say?
Much emphasis is placed on a fairly small group of dissatisfied students who didn't get jobs or transfer of credits, with no explanation of how this differs from more traditional non profit colleges with similar accreditations. The article seems to apply different rules to profit making colleges, or maybe the writers are just impartially reporting a type of discrimination that occurred in published references.
Presidential candidate Marco Rubio has been connected with campaign contributions[1] from Corinthian Colleges and has made education reform a part of his campaign platform.[2]
During the coming presidential campaign many people will be reading this article because of Rubio's connection, and it might become a contentious or manipulated vehicle for or against candidates. In that regard the article needs help from impartial expertise in education, government, bankruptcy, and finance. Also the veterans of Wikipedia policies and standards need to make provisions for orderly and factual control of the pages.
I have no affiliation with Corinthian Colleges or their opponents, but do have an interest in education and am lacking a lot of the necessary expertise. Astrojed (talk) 01:05, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
References
- ^ Jackson, Abby. "Marco Rubio's radical education plan could benefit one embattled type of college". Business Insider. Retrieved 4 October 2015.
- ^ Rubio, Marco. "Reform Higher-Ed Accreditation for the 21st Century". National Review. Retrieved 4 October 2015.
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