Talk:Control order
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Control orders arguably breach human rights, infringe on civil liberties, fall foul of the ECHR, create mistrust of the government, particularly from the Muslim community, and create resentment of British society in the Muslim community in Britain. Balfron 18:56, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
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[edit]The article needs more info adding to it:
- ECHR issues
- Judicial controls
- Political views
Juice07 21:35, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
ASBO and injunction
[edit]How is a control order different from ASBO and Injunction?Anwar (talk) 10:33, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- A control order is different from an ASBO because ASBO's are imposed by a magistrate in the Magistrates Courts, whereas a non-derogating control order can be imposed by the Home Secretary, without any conviction for any offences having been brought. A non-derogating needs the approval of a Court after 7 days, but is not issued by the Court as the result of legal proceedings. An injunction differs from a control order again because it can only be ordered by a court. Juice07 (talk) 19:08, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Links to quarterly reports on control orders
[edit]Year | Quarter 1 | Quarter 2 | Quarter 3 | Quarter 4 |
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2005 | 11 Mar 05 - 11 Jun 05 | 11 Jun 05 - 10 Sep 05 | 11 Sep 05 - 11 Dec 05 | |
2006 | 11 Dec 05 - 10 Mar 06 | 11 Mar 06 - 11 Jun 06 | 11 Jun 06 - 11 Sep 06 | 11 Sep 06 - 11 Dec 06 |
2007 | 11 Dec 06 - 10 Mar 07 | 11 Mar 07 - 11 Jun 07 | 11 Jun 07 - 10 Sep 07 | 11 Sep 07 - 10 Dec 07 |
2008 | 11 Dec 07 - 10 Mar 08 | 11 Mar 08 - 11 Jun 08 | 11 Jun 08 - 10 Sep 08 | 11 Sep 08 - 10 Dec 08 |
2009 | 11 Dec 08 - 10 Mar 09 | 11 Mar 09 - 11 Jun 09 | 11 Jun 09 - 10 Sep 09 | 11 Sep 09 - 10 Dec 09 |
2010 | 11 Dec 09 - 10 Mar 10 | 11 Mar 10 - 11 Jun 10 |
Many, but not all of the above are cited in the article.
The above may be useful for research, or could be adapted, perhaps with the addition of key statistics from each report, and then incorporated in the article. Richard Taylor (talk) 19:45, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
Statistics extracted from reports and added to table:
[edit]Report | No. Control Orders in Operation | No. New | No. Revoked | No. on British Citizens |
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2005 | ||||
11 Mar 05 - 11 Jun 05 | 11 | 11 | 0 | ? |
11 Jun 05 - 10 Sep 05 | 3 | 1 | 9 | ? |
11 Sep 05 - 11 Dec 05 | 8 | 5 | 0 | ? |
2006 | ||||
11 Dec 05 - 10 Mar 06 | 11 | 3 | 0 | 3 |
11 Mar 06 - 11 Jun 06 | 14 | 3 | 0 | 5 |
11 Jun 06 - 11 Sep 06 | 15 | 9 | 0 | 6 |
11 Sep 06 - 11 Dec 06 | 16 | 1 | 0 | 7 |
2007 | ||||
11 Dec 06 - 10 Mar 07 | 18 | 4 | 1 | 9 |
11 Mar 07 - 11 Jun 07 | 17 | 1 | 0 | 8 |
11 Jun 07 - 10 Sep 07 | 14 | 2 | 0 | 8 |
11 Sep 07 - 10 Dec 07 | 14 | 0 | 0 | 8 |
2008 | ||||
11 Dec 07 - 10 Mar 08 | 11 | 2 | 1 +1 quashed | 4 |
11 Mar 08 - 11 Jun 08 | 15 | 6 | 0 | 3 |
11 Jun 08 - 10 Sep 08 | 16 | 1 | 0 | 4 |
11 Sep 08 - 10 Dec 08 | 15 | 0? | 0? | 4 |
2009 | ||||
11 Dec 08 - 10 Mar 09 | 17 | 2 | 0 | 6 |
11 Mar 09 - 11 Jun 09 | 20 | 5 | 1* | 10 |
11 Jun 09 - 10 Sep 09 | 15 | 0 | 5 | 9 |
11 Sep 09 - 10 Dec 09 | 12 | 3 | 6 | 9 |
2010 | ||||
11 Dec 09 - 10 Mar 10 | 11 | 1 | 2 | 10 |
11 Mar 10 - 11 Jun 10 | 12 | 2 | 1 | 10 |
- See source report for precise details.
Renewals are not counted as new control orders. Expirations are not mentioned in the above table. Those revoked and replaced with different conditions are not counted.
While not tabulated above, the number of modifications of orders rose substantially during the operation of the act, with 125 modifications of control orders in the period 11 June 2009 to 10 September 2009, even though only 15 orders were in-force at the end of the period. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Richard Taylor (talk • contribs) 19:34, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
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[edit]Maybe I am missing something (the structure of the article is not very clear), but some of the most important information seems to be missing:
- WHO imposes a control order - a government authority, a court (which one), ...?
- What evidence needs to be presented? Who examines the evidence?
- What are the limited rights of appeal? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.76.146.141 (talk) 20:11, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
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[edit]Pointts raised above have gone unanswered. Are those controlled merely suspects, or has guilt been proved? What effect do these orders have on Human Rights, presumption of innocence? Crawiki (talk) 08:39, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
Australian control orders
[edit]How is the statement in the lead section that "Control orders were also included in the Australian Anti-Terrorism Act 2005." relevant to this article? There is no explanation of the Australian legislation in the body of the article and there appears to be a separate Wikipedia article about them, so a link should only appear in the See also section. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 23:57, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
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