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I originated this page for two reasons. First, the CATMOG was a very interesting and innovative series. Second, the CATMOG can be used as citations for various geographic concepts. My hope is that other wiki editors and people that use the sources on Wikipedia for more formal publications can make use of the references on this page to improve their work. GeogSage (talk) 18:02, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I appreciate the article. WorldCat has CATMOG categorized as a journal. (ISSN: 0306-6142, OCLC: 612419624). On that basis, would a journal inbox improve the article?

Most of the references used in the article appear as WP:SELFSOURCE (...alexsingleton...com...) and are treated in Wikipedia as generally unreliable. Replacing these references with clearly reliable sources (...quantile.info...) if available would improve the article. -- edited Paleorthid (talk) 05:25, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the feedback. My understanding is that they were/are something between a journal and a textbook. They are not very long, and while edited, I don't think were peer reviewed. That said, what would a journal inbox be appropriate?

The PDFs in the sources are from the British Royal Society Website. How would we go about improving them? GeogSage (talk) 07:54, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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User:Storchy has added a copyright notice to the page. The links on the page are to the copyright holders site. They have made the publications available there, and the links only navigate to these locations. Do the URLs need to be removed from citations?GeogSage (talk) 18:28, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, the article says "QMRG at the Royal Geographical Society (with the Institute for British Geographers) has made the CATMOG available to download for free on their website, with only a few publications missing". But there are many links here to PDFs on a WordPress blog, which appears to be hosting unauthorised copies of the copyrighted files. Is there documentation somewhere about the WordPress blog also being authorised to legally host the PDFs? Otherwise we could swap in links to the content on the RGS website. Happy to help with this. Storchy (talk) 21:47, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hello,
So looking at the history, the Quantitative Methods Study Group of the Institute of British Geographers is who published the CATMOG. Their website is https://quantile.info/quantile/ and the CATMOG catalog is hosted at https://quantile.info/catmog/. They are not funded anymore, however.
Clicking the links to download in the catalog (where I got the URLS), it looks like whoever made the website to host these employed WordPress. GeogSage (talk) 22:47, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You're absolutely right, and thanks for pointing that out. But this seems like a bit of a gray area, as the QMRG may have made an honest error by hosting that copyrighted content on a third website, or maybe it's all perfectly legal. Well, I'll remove the tag for now, and will ask about this at WP:MCQ. You're welcome to join in the discussion there. Storchy (talk) 06:54, 25 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]