Talk:Compote

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Drink or dessert?

This article is very confusing; is compote a drink or a dessert or both? If it is both then there should be two sections to make that clear. As it is the introductory sentence isn't consistent with the rest of the article. Could someone clarify this? IronC hris | (talk) 19:01, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Clarified, or at least tried toSwizec 19:10, 29 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

in poland we have just kompot as drink (and as far as i remember other east european, slavic countries too), ive never heard about kompot as dessert. both compote and kompot articles should be merged together imo.--Insanelyapplepie (talk) 20:20, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support to merge. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 04:50, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Strongly against merging. Compote is a French dessert. Kompot is a slavic drink. Just because they have a similar name and similar ingredients (fruits), doesn't mean they should be merged together. That would only cause confusion to those who are not familiar with either compote or kompot (and they'll end up thinking they are the same thing). Cancerbero 8 (talk) 16:10, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable sources such as the Oxford Companion to Food treat kompot as simply a spelling variant of compote. Moreover, they show that the dessert form is also known as 'kompot' in Eastern Europe, e.g. in Elena Molokhovets' famous Russian cookbook A Gift to Young Housewives. --Macrakis (talk) 23:46, 6 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support to merge. My rationale explained in the Merge Proposal below. Mrbdt (talk) 22:33, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Languages

Is it particularly necessary to rattle off all the languages in which this term has a similar name, or even cases in which it doesn't? Particularly since the one from which it comes, French compote, is not in there? -Djcartwright 06:22, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I slightly changed it with the rewrite, I am not all to certain that it is all that accurate in stating that the names are of drinks. I'll be doing some more research on the topic.--Christopher Tanner, CCC 02:01, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. We'be been treated to the Hungarian, Lithuanian, Russian, Bulgarian, Czech, and, recently, the Romanian versions of the drink versions. They may belong in the Kompot article, but not this one. For the Portuguese, German, etc. versions of the fruit puree, users clan use the interwiki links. Président (talk) 20:30, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Appelmoes is not the Dutch/Flemish word for compote, Appelmoes is without bits of fruit and smoother. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.61.172.235 (talk) 19:10, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Plagiarism

The section on Compote as a drink is directly lifted from the Jewish recipes site as of July 11, 2007.

What "jewish recipes site"? When you comment on Plagiarism, please provide a website address to we can verify. --RossF18 23:34, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Citations

Which book of Robuchon was cited to. He has written a few and providing Robuchon's name and page numbers is not helpful for verification. --RossF18 00:09, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Someone removed the book title so I combed through the edit history to find out. --Adoniscik^{(t, c)} 18:05, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

'Unrelated drink' Conflicting statements

In the 'Unrelated drink' section, the article first claims, as per the section heading, that the two are unrelated...then in the very last statement, it states that the drink may be the basis for the dessert. Which in my mind makes them related..no? Can somebody with knowledge of this subject please clarify and edit the article please? - 143.65.196.4 (talk) 14:39, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Compote is a type of preparation.

The culinary term "compote" does not necessarily only apply to desserts, per the Larousse Gastronomic it also applies to dishes cooked for a long period of time, often small bird dishes. I will add a reference in a bit. JonathanPlaster 21:44, 6 September 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by JonathanPlaster (talk • contribs)

Merger proposal

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

To not merge, on the grounds that despite their similar names, there are distinct topics warranting separate discussion. Klbrain (talk) 16:27, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello dear Wikipedians! I suggest this page and the page on Kompot are merged. While there are certain differences between the two, e.g. in viscosity, the overlap both linguistically and ingredients-wise can't be ignored. For instance, 'kompot' and 'komposto' are used interchangingly to refer to the drink(that is the subject of the other article) in certain regions; and lack of overlap of areas where both are traditionally consumed suggests that the two are geographical variants of one another. I think a section explaining the difference between the two variants will suffice in this regard. All in favour? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrbdt (talk • contribs) 12:02, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Despite the name being the same, Polish kompot is a drinkable fruit juice. What I see here, the French dessert, is much more solid. The differences are significant enough to warrant separate articles. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:49, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly. I oppose as well - for example, the Slovak kompót is not something to drink (it's added to pancakes or such, but nobody really drinks it ) Timotej Leginus (talk) 16:26, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

OPPOSE: Strongly oppose. Russian and Ukranian Kompot is a delicious fruit juice. I know this because my neighbors are Ukranian and they gifted me with some Kompot juice after I gifted them with ripe black figs from my garden. The preparation of both Russian and Ukranian Kompot is wildly different from the Compote dessert dish in Europe. While both contain fruit and sugar, the preparation of each recipe is markedly different. Here is one example: Kompot is prepared by placing fruit in a gallon of water, bringing it to a boil and allowing it to simmer for 30 minutes to one hour. Only AFTER the simmering is complete, is sugar added. The leftover fruit is then strained out and can be used for another purpose. The recipe for Compote calls for far less water, and sugar is added DURING the cooking process, not after. This is not the only difference betwween Eastern Europe Kompot and the dessert dish of Compote. There are others. OP is correct that the dishes are similar, but they are not the same and should not be merged into one. Billbird2111 (talk) 22:45, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.