Talk:Company of Masters

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Company of Masters article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Martial arts

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Martial arts. Please use these guidelines and suggestions to help improve this article. If you think something is missing, please help us improve them!Martial artsWikipedia:WikiProject Martial artsTemplate:WikiProject Martial artsMartial arts articles

Military history: Technology / Weaponry / British / European / Early Modern

This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.Military historyWikipedia:WikiProject Military historyTemplate:WikiProject Military historymilitary history articles

This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status:
Referencing and citation: criterion not met Coverage and accuracy: criterion not met Structure: criterion met Grammar and style: criterion met Supporting materials: criterion not met

Associated task forces:
/
	Military science, technology, and theory task force
	Weaponry task force
	British military history task force
	European military history task force
	Early Modern warfare task force (c. 1500 – c. 1800)

United Kingdom Low‑importance

	United Kingdom portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United Kingdom, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the United Kingdom on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.United KingdomWikipedia:WikiProject United KingdomTemplate:WikiProject United KingdomUnited Kingdom articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Support for Expansion

This article is on a subject of some interest to me, and I would certainly like to see it expanded. Firstly, the article needs citations for material currently in place, as well as for any future material added. I would also like to see more information on the manner with which the members advanced, the role of Prize Playing, and even information (if available) about the relative ease of advancement (did almost everyone who tried for Provost fail? 70%? 50%?). It would also be nice to see important individuals within the organization, perhaps names for the four "senior Masters". Also, a section on the societal impact of the organization would not be undue, as the role of judicial and non-judicial duelling was (I believe) a relatively important element of this society, with such a school providing an individual the means with which to win his life. Also, I think with the upswing in historical martial arts reconstruction, it may be worth to note that a very similar system of rank has come into use by the Association for Renaissance Martial Arts. --Xiliquiern 14:23, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's a very common ranking system for historical fencing groups, not just ARMA. There is actually a modern Company of Maisters of the Science of Defence (http://www.maisters.demon.co.uk/ - very outdated homepage), in England, founded by Terry Brown, and named in honour of the original company. They might be worth a mention too. Megalophias 21:53, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely - I only knew of the ARMA ranking system, but it certainly makes sense for historical fencing organizations to model themselves after the "real deal". --Xiliquiern 22:25, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

When was this?

Can we add some dates please? --Knulclunk 06:12, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Seven years

I don't remember that it took seven years to become a free scholar, just to become a provost, and then five to be a master. Also some people got special leave to advance faster. 24.67.137.170 (talk) 16:55, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Italian School?

"...notably the use of the rapier as taught in the Italian school of swordsmanship popular at the time." I don't believe this is the case... the masters of defence were actually quite at odds with Italian fencing instructors in England at the time (Rocco Bonnetti and Vincentio Saviolo, for instance). Furthermore, the only good source we have for a member of the company teaching rapier (Swetnam) does not support the idea that they were teaching it "as taught in the Italian school." If no one offers support for this statement, I will return and delete it. Sebatinsky (talk) 22:26, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edited as proposed two weeks ago. Sebatinsky (talk) 14:36, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Terry Brown

Unfortunately there isn't an article, even a stub, for Terry Brown, martial artist, HEMA enthusiast. Ulrich von Lichtenstein (talk) 07:35, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]