Talk:Communion of Reformed Evangelical Churches

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Peter Leithart Question

My understanding is that Dr. Leithart is a minister in the PCA serving out of bounds in the CREC. Is he also a member of the CREC? The CREC does allow such dual membership, but can anyone verify that's the case here? Kyriosity (talk) 05:20, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reformed denominations in North America?

I didn't find this CREC page listed under the category "Reformed denominations in North America" when I looked at that list earlier today. I went ahead and added it. If it wouldn't be entirely accurate to categorize the CREC as such, please feel free to remove the changes that I made. NathanDahlin (talk) 01:46, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, you were absolutely correct in adding that category. St Anselm (talk) 02:05, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Adding known Pastors and adding known CREC Churchs to the page

I'm a member of one of these many CREC Churchs and I was thinking of adding the names of Churchs throughout the world, the websites for said Churchs and the Pastors (or Elders) of these Churchs to the page. Is it alright if I add this information? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.77.188.146 (talk) 16:39, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Generally, no. Wikipedia is not a directory. Churches and people should only be added if they are notable in themselves. St Anselm (talk) 19:19, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Minutes

I'm having trouble parsing this source: https://crechurches.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/1998crec0198.pdf Where does it say that they are founding the CRE and that the three churches were its founders? It feels like we would need to make assumptions or read between the lines. Aren't there any secondary sources for this? WestRiding24 (talk) 02:17, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You're probably unlikely to find a secondary source - at least one that would meet reliability standards (although I could be wrong on that). I get what you're saying as it could be interpreted as WP:SYNTH. I think it depends on how the text in the article is worded as to what would be necessary. However, the minutes do specifically state that it's their first Presbytery (which in Prebyterian polity is their initial conference meeting). The delegates present represent the churches involved. I'd agree that "founding churches" could be interpreted as SYNTH if the reader assumed it to be saying those churches and those only, because the source doesn't specifically say that. But some wording that conveys that these were initial churches wouldn't be. There is no indication that there are or are not other churches, so on that basis, something that conveys it was these three and these only unless a source specifically said that. Does that make sense? Probably something like "the first presbytery was attended by (name of church bodies)" or something like that. ButlerBlog (talk) 23:54, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's a lot of interpretation. It's not like the source says, "we are founding a denomination: here are the founding churches". It's not really clear what the document is. What were the minutes of the meetings before and after? (Since they are revising their constitution there must have been previous meetings to initially draft it, for example). Where do we find such private documents anyway? You may recall that I tried to include the people who were involved but this document wasn't allowed for that. If this is important information I'm sure that it'll appear in either a secondary source or a more definitive primary source. WestRiding24 (talk) 00:16, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say it's pretty clear from the very beginning of the minutes what they are. As for the people involved, they aren't "the founders" as was what was being put into the article, and the minutes don't call them such. Being a delegate to the first presbytery doesn't make them founders - they're just the representatives of the session. What was objected to wasn't the source, it was the content of the article. Not the same thing. ButlerBlog (talk) 03:47, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]