Talk:Commodore (United States)

Summary

Excellent summary of the rank in the US Navy. Just made one change at the end about commodoare in Naval Aviation. The title only applies to type wing commanders, such as Commander, Strike Fighter Wing Atlantic (who is responsible for administrative command of all F-18s and the few remaining F-14s on the east coast). Type wing commander is not to be confused with a Carrier Air Wing commander, who is never refered to as Commodore. Type wing commander is also functionally equivalent to, for instance, a Destroyer Squadron (DESRON) commander, who also has the title of Commodore.

U.S. Coast Guard Auxiliary usage

The term "Commodore" (abbreviated to COMO) is still in use in the civilian auxiliary of the U.S. Coast Guard, though the USCG itself follows USN practise of RADM upper/lower half. The USCGAUX uses silver sleeve braid and shoulder boards to differentiate itself from the actual Coast Guard (Auxiliarists often refer to the "silver side" and "gold side" of the Coast Guard).--MarshallStack 04:42, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Ship's Captain and on-board guest with rank Captain

What about when an officer with the rank of Captain boards another ship, where that officer is not the skipper of the ship? Isn't that officer referred to as a Commodore? While the skipper is titled Captain, regardless of actual rank? Group29 (talk) 15:07, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

yacht clubs

This seems mostly a military article (even the USCG Aux), is it appropriate to have stuff on yacht clubs? 65.93.15.80 (talk) 07:51, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Commodore vs Commodore Admiral

This section states that the O-7 rank was first titled "Commodore Admiral" then shortened to "Commodore" and finally "Rear Admiral (lower half)". That contradicts the introduction, which states that the sequence was "Commodore" then "Commodore Admiral" then RADL. My memory is that the introduction is correct, but this should be resolved with reference to reliable sources. For that matter, the article needs better sourcing. Robert A.West (Talk) 20:50, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Rhetoric

The article, or at least the initial portions of section History, is written in run-on sentences, with the result that presentation of the topic, in parts, is muddled or outright absent.

For example, in section History, the 1st two sentences should be broken up. Notice how sentence 2 alone has at least 5 faults: 1. The naming of Barry as the U.S. Navy's 1st commodore doesn't exemplify the topic of the article. Sure, it says Barry was the Navy's first commodore. Then year 1794 is named, but its relevance to his becoming a commodore isn't stated. We're told only that that's when he was "appointed." Appointed what? And if in that era commodore was only an informal, additional title given to a captain, we're not told that about Barry. Was he appointed as a captain, with additional title commodore? Or was he, say, appointed a captain, and title commodore came later? If so, when? 2. Word "Navy" is used 3 times. Reduce that to 2, or even to 1. 3. It invokes unreferenced term "Navy" before the entity to which it presumably refers, U.S. Navy. If you retain stand-alone term "Navy," reverse that order. 4. It re-names Continental Navy, already mentioned in sentence 1. Arguably it is irrelevant in sentence 2, which is talking about 1794—years after (I presume) it went defunct. 5. While you're at it, de-hyperlink the 2nd, redundant hyperlinking of Continental Navy.

Etc.

Ideally, every sentence in a Wikipedia article should have no faults. Granted, as I'm writing this, the article's quality is graded "Start" class. So, that's OK. This is a gradual effort, by all involved.

Jimlue (talk) 15:28, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Antoine Rabideau

The reports of his death around 1949 were greatly exaggerated. The statement that he "apparently died sometime in 1949" as the article currently suggests seemed rather vague, and as a genealogist it seemed like something that could likely be verified or disproven. It took only a quick google search to find his grave, which was unused until 1970: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/17997999/antoine-oliver-rabideau

So this obviously needs to be edited, but I don't know enough about his life after 1949 to tie the current paragraph together with the new information, so I'm hoping someone else can help with that. I feel like it would leave a loose end awkwardly hanging out there if I were just to delete the incorrect information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cowboydan76 (talk • contribs) 18:03, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

Antoine O. Rabideau

I found a record for one Rear Admiral USNR Antoine Oliver Rabideau born June 12th 1885 deceased July 19th 1970 at Find A Grave Antoine Oliver Rabideau.

In all likelihood this is the missing admiral mentioned in the article in the WW2 and the Cold War section. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/17997999/antoine-oliver-rabideau. He might we been missing from the rolls due to his reserve status. In any case I wanted to present this information should it be beneficial to correct his information in the article.

Keithstark1 (talk) 10:06, 3 May 2021 (UTC)