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Unverified statement re-added

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See my edit + es. Here Averysoda re-adds it without honoring the WP:VERIFY argument already noted in the editsummary (in other words: adding the name of the source to the text does not make it a verifiable statement). Also, likely a WP:1RR violation. -DePiep (talk) 08:42, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nonsense. The official website of CAMERA is reliable with attribution. It's like saying "According to CAMERA, the organization has 65,000 volunteers." This is not necessarily a 'fact', but a statement. Opinionated sources are not required to be neutral, unbiased, or objective, as long as they have correct attribution.--Averysoda (talk) 09:56, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
1RR. WP:VERIFY. Don't say "nonsense" as an argument. You have been warned. -DePiep (talk) 10:00, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This article says "EI was founded in February 2001" and "In 2010 it received US$130,000 in donations from individuals and US$83,000 from private foundations", using Electronic Intifada as a source. I don't see you complaining and warning... or do you think that pro-Palestinian organizations like EI are more reliable than pro-Israeli organizations like CAMERA?--Averysoda (talk) 10:20, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The problem, Averysoda, is that statements about financial contributions to nonprofit organizations registered in the United States (which includes both CAMERA and EI) are independently verifiable. US nonprofits are required to file form 990, which includes information on all income sources, and which is published regularly by the government on the Internet. If the nonprofit also undergoes an audit by an independent organization like American Institute of Philanthropy, then the number of volunteers would also be verifiable. However, CAMERA has never undertaken an audit to my knowledge, so their claim that they have 65,000 volunteers is unverifiable. What's more, it's completely fantastic. Where are these 65,000 volunteers? What do they do? Is there a list of them somewhere? Maybe the International Red Cross has 65,000 volunteers. But CAMERA? We should try to keep the article within the bounds of the faintly credible. --Ravpapa (talk) 17:01, 18 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A year later -- This completely ridiculous statement that CAMERA has 65,000 "paying members" remains in the article, despite my previous protests. CAMERA yearly files form 990 with the US government, confirming that income from membership dues is zero. If there are no further comments, I am taking this statement out of the article. --Ravpapa (talk) 06:35, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Go for it! A statement like this, if challenged, needs a reliable source. It might be okay to attribute the statement, i.e. saying that "in [year], Camera stated that it had more than 65,000 members". Note that the self-sourced claim does not assert that these are paying members, just members. Small organizations are notoriously unreliable in their membership claims FWIW.- Wikidemon (talk) 08:24, 10 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

So this was a case of classic anti non semitic jewish media control or? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.24.186.179 (talk) 12:59, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New NEWS today, for future editing

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Seems like a good activity in Los Angeles. 

Headline-1: MLK Day Conference to Defend Christian Support for Israel

QUOTE: "While Christians are among the strongest allies of the Jewish state and its people, CAMERA points out that a new anti-Israel effort is attempting to dismantle Christian support for Israel. In a video ad promoting Monday’s conference, CAMERA says that “Palestinian advocates are pushing a false narrative that Jesus wasn’t Jewish, but a Palestinian." -- Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 04:47, 19 January 2016 (UTC) -- PS: FYI for future editing.[reply]

Talk pages are not for promotion of events. Zerotalk 07:10, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
My note is intended to be advance notice to WP editors since I think this news is very important. At the end of the day, I searched to see if this important event happened, and can't find if it did. If it did, it didn't make any news that I can find. -- Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 08:54, 19 January 2016 (UTC) -- Thanks for your concern; I'll keep in mind to not announce their events. Actually, today is the first time I've heard of CAMERA, so I'll be watching this Article.[reply]
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IRS Form 990

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https://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/detailsPage?ein=521332702&name=Committee%20for%20Accuracy%20in%20Middle%20East%20Reporting%20in%20America&city=Boston&state=MA&countryAbbr=US&type=returnsSearch

IRS

Committee For Accuracy In Middle East Reporting In America

EIN: 52-1332702 | Boston, MA, United States

Copies of Returns (990, 990-EZ, 990-PF, 990-T)

https://apps.irs.gov/pub/epostcard/cor/521332702_201912_990_2021022417750352.pdf

Tax Year 2019 Form 990

Gross recepts $5,913.337

Andrea Levin, President, reportable compensation $262,287

Alex Safian, Associate Director, reportable compensation $158,291

Anne Bayefsky, Consultant, compensation $309,215


--Nbauman (talk) 17:24, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Name of the group

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The page is titled Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America. The linked website for the group gives its name as the Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting and Analysis. Some of the references used on the page use the former name and some use the latter name. Presumably, the group changed its name at some point and this article has not kept up with the change. Burrobert (talk) 07:26, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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